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Actually, that's not quite clear in fairness. The club weren't legally obliged to give him a ban of any kind. They could have simply let the courts deal with it. And SISU, as we've seen from other threatened court actions against fans in the form of the trust, do seem to act spitefully. So...

A lazy insult and entirely without evidence, as is usual from you Grendel. Typical of someone who can't answer a straight question but seeks instead to divert any argument in the hope that people won't notice what a fool he's made of himself. Kind of a SISU trick, now that I think of it...

Me, personally, no. I wouldn't see either a charity or the taxpayer screwed over for the benefit of any football club. (Doubly so when it's not actually necessary, as in this case.) Would you?

That logic is utterly twisted. It presupposes that you know the motives of any purchasers or potential purchasers. To you, it's all about the rent, so everything you look at is filtered through that prism. Even to the current owners it wasn't all about the rent for the first few years. It...

Ignoring the resident moronic troll, please let us know.

Hey, Grendel. Answer my question first. It's incredibly rude, answering a question with a question. You're saying the Ricoh deal put others off. Where's your evidence? It upset SISU so much that they didn't even make it an issue when they first took over - that's how much it bothered them.

Thanks for trying, at least. With regard to getting grief over admin, I don't think you can complain too much - it did screw a lot of people over, and have an impact beyond your borders. In fact, I think it was one of the reasons the original builders of the Ricoh arena pulled out - football...

Utterly specious reasoning, as usual. Your evidence for this is where exactly?

Calm down lad, all that shouting will give you a sore throat. ;) If you read this thread I think there are a number of excuses being made. From poor due dligence to it's Richardson/McGinnity/The Council's fault. Not sure I agree with that, to be honest.

Of course it's the owner's fault - who else could it possibly be? SISU knew exactly where we were at the point of taking over - there are people here who must think due diligence is rocket science. The lease and terms were by far the simplest things to see out of the whole package. Seriously...

She's almost certainly, and by her own and Fisher's admission, a 'shadow director'. I can't see any reason why she'd fail the 'Fit & Proper' test as it stands, especially as it's laughably weak and self-certifying. However, if CCFC were to go into admin again (which isn't beyond the bounds of...

I think there are any number of things we can blame the owners for, but this probably isn't one of them. It does seem a bit strange, but then footballers can be a bit dim. Did he perhaps think he could engineer a move back to his home town club after signing the loan deal? Still, if it's...

Good work mate. And agreed, Saints fans are solid, good to see them doing well.

Sort of, except that it's one side challenging the other with respect to a single point of law. The judge isn't going to ask questions about how SISU have run the club, for example. An independent investigation would have a much broader scope. It would presumably try to draw out the situation...

I hear what you're saying, but the question was "So - what exactly would we demand from the council, what would our protest ask for?". Apologies, but I don't think you've quite answered the question. I think we can all guess that there have been local businesses hurt by all this - but it...

The thing is, there's a very clear and obvious thing to protest about with regard to the owners. The simple fact is that they could bring the team back to the Ricoh and still do all the things that they seem to want to do (negotiate to purchase freehold or bits of ACL, or even build a new...

Absolutely. I know this phrase is often used as a wind-up, and I don't intend it as that, but I am genuinely struggling to see what the complaint is here. CCFC don't play at the Ricoh any more. I wish they did, but they don't. ACL are a business, and need to bring money in. I don't think...

Indeed. In other news I hear they've taken the word 'gullible' out of the OED. Look at all of the available evidence, RFC. This isn't a project that's slipping, this is a project that hasn't even started. They'll be no dotting of i's or crossing of t's until there's an end to the j's and r's...

Blimey £20k - do you think they could turn me into at least a League 1 striker? It's a lot of money for me to find, and I'm knocking on a bit, but I don't need to improve much 'cos I hear that Wolves will buy any old tat. ;)

What, you mean really fast and scores loads of goals? That wouldn't be an absolute disaster. ;)