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Agreed. I'm generally a fan of civil disobedience. All civil disobedience is essentially a critique of capitalism. Unfortunately, the state's and media's response to civil disobedience ends up reinforcing the status quo. Poor, disenfranchised people wrong. Rich owners of production right.

Or they might not. Let's ask @alexjones

How? Hung, drawn and quartered I say. We could call it the triple lock for pensioners.

Happy for you to start a Gofundme on my behalf to reverse my snip Rob.

No. There are however, thresholds which must be met (skills, wages etc). Ergo there are controls. Uncontrolled immigration is basically a trope, and not based on actual policy.

Erm... Coventry?

But there isn't uncontrolled immigration. Net migration is about 600,000 per annum. It's legal and authorised, hence controlled. It's a lazy label 'uncontrolled', and implies a lack of control. The majority of immigration is controlled, by central government. You may be pro or anti...

I'm knocking on the door of 60 (3 years to go). It used to feel like a ripe old age when I was younger, now it feels like I'm entering the prime of my life. RIP.

But surely, any right minded person would immediately reply saying that's inappropriate, and also forward immediately to the police? I do get some silly stuff over social media, but anything as distressing as child porn would have me straight onto the authorities. I suspect the wording is...

GET IT FUCKING WIDE. WIDE!

I was expecting this message to be a bit late, but it was Ride on Time.

"We didn't party hard enough" "If Pincher wants to pinch, let him pinch" "Dear old Downden? Just change the rules to get him off"

5live here. Sat in the kitchen with all three on the laptop, hard to concentrate on any of them.

Tories in 1997 : 165 seats Anything less than that is a disaster. We all hoped that the mad Survation polls were right. They were outliers. If 131 seats are correct, that is a fucking rout. Ed Davey's merry troubadours on 61 is also a plus for overall progressive parties. Don't be...

This is a direct consequence of the voting demographic. Young people don't vote in the numbers that oldies do. Ergo... "Fuck the youth, they don't vote anyway" approach from all parties. Mummies and daddies can serve us up shite like Mumford and sons, Coldplay and Lily fucking Allen. CV would...

Quite happy with the landslide. Just waiting to see whether... [email protected] hangs on. Hopefully not.

Another non sequitur. What's that question got to do with the thread? Open a new one called "Thought experiments" or something. Meanwhile, let the grown ups crack on with having a debate.

Voting. Good. Paying tax. Good. Not voting. Bad. Not paying tax. Bad. Is that simple enough for you?

I honestly don't think I'm patronising, but I WOULD have put a comma after "hell" my dear. X

Nice pithy comment, but complete bollocks. Aaron Aardvark would lose their deposit. I've said it before, I'll say it again. Any c**t who doesn't vote is a c**t.