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Another definition might be the ability to form a balanced view rather than the blinkered shite we tend to hear on here

Because they can see raw talent just as we can.

Agreed. But if they want to go and the head has been turned... We don't want sulking prima donnas about the place.

Are you his agent by any chance? All the more reason to resist 1.7m now and sell him for 6m in 2years time.

Are you assuming you are going to see some of that money back on the pitch?

Every club is a selling club.

Maybe Otis, if he believes he's going to get a kick. If he has enough sense to know he won't then he might consider staying for a season and getting a bigger payday when he goes in a bigger deal in 12/18 months.

If the lad wants to stay it would obviously be better to keep him, he'll be worth a lot more in 12 months after he's torn a hole in L1. But if he wants to go then yes, sell and get a loan back, although that uses a loan space for the whole season.

Singer/songwriter born in Warks.

He is one of only 11 achievers the club has ever produced.

Its strange this thread because Oggy seems to be a very powerful figure to have had such a negative impact on the club, to have 'bled it dry' in fact. He must have been involved in decision making at every level to have fucked the club up so royally over so many years and have all these people...

or a link to the ONLY success we've ever had.

I imagine the fella quite fancied seeing his family.

Fuckin hell Hill!!!!

Not in my nature... and I'm tired. But I'll be here in the coming weeks if you'd like to discuss your inadequacies. I have known many small men who pretend to be big men. I'll be gentle.

Your intellectual vanity reveals a latent insecurity for all to see. I'll not bully you. Would you like to talk?

Pistols it is then, as befitting a gentleman. I've never managed a good grasp on 'who's boss'! - maybe I'm just a prol with attitude.

Yes you are right. But not because of our negativity, because the council sold our future to a London rugby club.

Not many clubs to choose from that far north though.

Grow up Tony ffs!