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And when did the 2nd Ref crew start calling for that? How successful were they? The fact you keep ignoring is that Labour has the most complex voting demographic in the country. It was always going to be much harder for them to keep their voters happy. The strategy of trying to be in control of...

Tells you everything you need to know about the Lib Dems really.

I’m not arguing with you over whether No-Deal should be stopped. It should. Post 2017 - there is simply no way there was appetite in the electorate for another referendum. This has changed now I agree (though maybe not quite as much as some people would make out) but it has only come into...

Labour lost 50 Scotland seats in 2010 because they had turned into the Tories by the end of Blair/ Brown. They did just as bad in 2015 under their continued Tory-lite banner. That is irrelevant to the Corbyn discussion unless you acknowledge that his policies started the long road to redemption...

Including a No-Deal?

To be in control of the negotiations when it was clear the current government were incapable....? Not sure you can call that bad strategy. Also - Labour have lost voters to Lib Dems in safe metropolitan seats. But what about Leave voting northern seats? Do they count for less, even when these...

And if Leave won again? Then what?

By attempting to bring Leave and Remain together? Labour’s intransigence (although frustrating because it would never be supported by the media) was the way it should have been done from Day 1.

Or he was unhappy with backstop. You can’t stop linking him to Ireland - seems strange for you not to bring it up.

True Corbyn and McDonnell want to negotiate their own deal and put it to the people. Sturgeon wants independence - the thing is a No-Deal Brexit strengthens the chance of her winning one but not getting one. Corbyn would give her a referendum on it in return for a coalition. TIG - who gives a...

Which means that party manoeuvres are more important than stopping a No Deal. Swinson, Soubry and the so-called Tory rebel’s all claim to want to stop no deal at all costs. It’s not true is it.

Then there can’t be enough MP’s that want to stop a No-Deal. The Lib Dems want a place at the table more than they want to stop a No-Deal.

If people want No-Deal stopped they have to back Corbyn. There is no other route. This will at least expose real motives.

Corbyn’s route of VONC and temp government is actually the ONLY route to stop a no-deal Brexit if Boris wants to pursue it - in this parliament at least. So it come down to those who say he can’t command a majority - what do you want more?

But her role is to ‘work on the advice of the Prime Minister’ so how does that work? Be clear - I want this stopped as well, but can this be a viable avenue?

Not sure - interestingly the last monarch that did it was executed....

If it wasn’t stopped - the new Queen’s Speech has to be voted on, creating a VONC in itself. But not until Oct 14th.

I think she may be powerless to do anything. This hasn’t happened since the 1640’s.

Congratulations on the little one. I echo what Nick and Terry said about clothing - designer baby clothes are a waste that they’ll grow so quickly you’ll get no use out of them. Asda and Tesco stuff is perfect. Also - Muslin squares - you can’t live without them!