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I think that we're almost arguing the same point, correct me if I'm wrong: - You're saying Wise and Cole shouldn't be compared because of the differing fitness standards of the time. - I'm saying, the fitness standards are irrelevant, because they where both at the standard they needed to be...

Fitness has undoubtedly improved in the last ten years, but that doesn't make a difference to the player at the time, they just have to be up to the standards at that time. Stanley Matthews was 50 when he retired in the 1950s, Ryan Giggs was 40 when he retired in the 2010s. Kevin Keegan...

He's taken his time to get fit, initially he had the odd good game followed by several indifferent games. I can see your point that he did disrupt the balance of a winning side. However recently he has shown real improvement as he's got fitter and fitter. I'm sure Mowbray didn't anticipate him...

I really think that Joe Cole was a good signing and we're really going to appreciate it in a few months time. To play devil's advocate though, the fitness would be a valid point if you took a 33 year old premier league player from 2006 and threw him into a league 1 team in 2016. That obviously...

A bit of a sidetrack from our important debate, but I've just got home, been using my mobile; half the comments that are viewable on tapatalk, aren't showing on the desktop site. Obviously one for Nick, is there a delay in mobile comments being posted?

Fair enough Grendel. If you could just explain what you actually meant in simple terms, there was clearly some misunderstanding, remember that we're football fans. For what it's worth, I agree Cole disrupted the team for a month or so, but think that now that he's fit he'll be an asset...

To start, I agree, this thread would have ended months ago if gender would give a straight answer to a simple question. I don't agree with you on comparing players 10 yrs apart though. If you were comparing Messi and George best, fair enough, the game has completely changed; any comparisons...

Alan Cole? Am I being slow again? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk I clearly can't use tapatalk; that was a response to BackRoomRummermill.

10 years ago at least one of these folk was named Alan. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk