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  1. Astute

    Coronavirus Thread (Off Topic, Politics)

    So can we wait until we reconvene until we say how useless he is? If he is useless I will hold my hands up and admit I was wrong to say he could be the one to take us forward. I will join you in saying we need someone better. The problem would be who.
  2. Astute

    Coronavirus Thread (Off Topic, Politics)

    Spot on. But your comment will be ignored as we have a new target. Just like football and the fans target has left.
  3. Astute

    Coronavirus Thread (Off Topic, Politics)

    Was Corbyn a good leader? Was I not allowed to mention what he kept getting wrong for a long time? Was I wrong when I said I could see a big defeat coming? Yet Starmer is crap because he hasn't corrected everything that is wrong in a week. And it isn't for me. It is for the future of the Labour...
  4. Astute

    Coronavirus Thread (Off Topic, Politics)

    And why is this? We have had a leader that since the last GE has hardly said a word. We have a new leader getting hammered by those in his own party. Non stop allegations of wrongdoing even though there is a lack of evidence. For over a month nobody has been able to question the Tories...
  5. Astute

    Coronavirus Thread (Off Topic, Politics)

    And yet again you say things should happen. But when I ask you about the details you say it doesn't matter about the details. You seem to want Starmer to solve the problems that have gone on in the Labour party for years in just a few days without any evidence. Don't you think they should look...
  6. Astute

    Coronavirus Thread (Off Topic, Politics)

    And back yet again to relying on the media to put the truthful account over for no reply to come back. We all know the Tories are failing badly. So they won't reply until they have to. This is why I am waiting a few more days. It isn't as though the 21st is a long way off. And I hope you are...
  7. Astute

    Coronavirus Thread (Off Topic, Politics)

    Can you tell me what has been proven? We went through this before. If the evidence is there they should be gone. You seem to know about some undoubted evidence. All I have seen is allegations. You know more than me on the subject it seems.
  8. Astute

    Coronavirus Thread (Off Topic, Politics)

    So he should ask all his questions now knowing not a single one will get answered and give them a chance to work out replies? The electorate knows how poor this government is. But they also knew the opposition was at least as bad.
  9. Astute

    Coronavirus Thread (Off Topic, Politics)

    Sadly I think he is going to have to spend too much time sorting out the infighting. I can't get my head around those who said we should back a Labour leader whatever but when we get a new Labour leader at a time of lockdown we should expect someone to come in and change things immediately...
  10. Astute

    Coronavirus Thread (Off Topic, Politics)

    This is getting silly again. Show me where I have said he is worthy of anything other than a chance to do something about the situation. Yet you will say you are not having a go at him and are willing to give him a chance.....
  11. Astute

    Coronavirus Thread (Off Topic, Politics)

    So you agree with me then. He can ask what he wants but won't get any answers. We will have to wait until they reconvene.
  12. Astute

    Coronavirus Thread (Off Topic, Politics)

    Which is what I said at the time and many tried to make out that I am a Tory voter. Just look on here. Whatever Corbyn did he got full support. He was supposed to have done the right thing on not saying leave or remain clearly. A fair few did see it as a problem though. And it is the same for...
  13. Astute

    Coronavirus Thread (Off Topic, Politics)

    They are not full left wing as many seem to want. What you are questioning between the lines is can he be left wing enough. What would you prefer. A Labour leader that appeals to many and can get voted in or total left wing that will stay in opposition?
  14. Astute

    Coronavirus Thread (Off Topic, Politics)

    Shall I join you in having a go at Starmer on everything you can think of? Might as well.
  15. Astute

    Coronavirus Thread (Off Topic, Politics)

    Any chance of keeping this fact based? I keep asking you how it can be done through the media when you know they won't reply. You haven't answered that once yet. I keep saying they are planned to reconvene on the 21st....within a week. Shall we wait to see or just say he is as bad as Corbyn...
  16. Astute

    Coronavirus Thread (Off Topic, Politics)

    They are supposed to be reconvened within a week. What is the use of asking questions through the media? They won't even want to answer them when they are in a position where they are supposed to answer them. All he has been able to do is ask questions like what are our plans on removing...
  17. Astute

    Coronavirus Thread (Off Topic, Politics)

    But not so left to alienate the floating voters. Things changed when Scotland was lost to Labour. We need left wing policies but left wing policies don't get you in power anymore. The only chance we have is Starmer doing what John Smith did in the 90's. If not we will be under Tory rule for a...
  18. Astute

    Coronavirus Thread (Off Topic, Politics)

    Spending untold billions to give free internet to all with finances that didn't stand up and in a timescale that wasn't possible. Jobs? What was that? What we did have was a leader that was useless. And you say the same yourself now. That is why the Tories didn't even need a manifesto. We...
  19. Astute

    Coronavirus Thread (Off Topic, Politics)

    Everything is shut down. This isn't like when a leader normally takes over. No question times. No debates. Are you expecting a running commentary on everything that is happening?
  20. Astute

    Coronavirus Thread (Off Topic, Politics)

    I also worked in manufacturing. We are all union members. Many of us have close ties to our union. Our union tells us who we should vote for. But most ignore the advice as they don't trust anything seriously to the left. But previously you would have struggled to find a single Tory voter. Even...
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