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  1. duffer

    dont look here look at them.......

    No argument here, although I think I'd accept that I've taken their side more than many for a large part of this. That's probably why I feel so thoroughly pissed off about what's now happened.
  2. duffer

    dont look here look at them.......

    I'm a bit staggered here at the levels of logic shown. This 'SISU apologist' stuff is frankly utter and complete bullshit. Being upset with what the council has done in selling to Wasps is clearly not the same as suddenly supporting everything our crap owners have done. If you seriously...
  3. duffer

    dont look here look at them.......

    Go on then, I'll bite. Point me to a SISU apologist, it's just that I don't think I've seen one hereabouts. And the ship hasn't sailed as much as been sold to another crew from out of town. I wouldn't presume to talk for the majority, but just because you're bored of it doesn't mean that...
  4. duffer

    More false Coventry council claims exposed over Ricoh Wasps deal-Les Reid

    Generally speaking it's a journalist's job to scrutinise and bring to light to wrongdoing. There's not much money or interest in articles with headlines like, "Don't Worry, All is Well". If you're a political journalist on a local newspaper then you're likely to focus on the council, and on...
  5. duffer

    dont look here look at them.......

    With respect OSB, we've lost any realistic chance of ever owning our own ground, or at least getting access to enough funding from it. I don't think anyone has lost focus on what a crap set of owners we've got - but one day they'll be gone. In the meantime, we still won't have our own ground...
  6. duffer

    More false Coventry council claims exposed over Ricoh Wasps deal-Les Reid

    SISU definitely went for due diligence in the abortive bid that became subject to the JR. http://www.coventrytelegraph.net/news/coventry-news/exclusive-offer-coventry-city-owners-3023213 I think they subsequently claimed that they were frustrated in the process and/or asked for more time to...
  7. duffer

    More false Coventry council claims exposed over Ricoh Wasps deal-Les Reid

    In fairness MMM, you won't get to due diligence if one side thinks that you're looking for massively beyond what you see as the true value of what they are trying to sell. Due diligence is an expensive process; if i remember correctly one of SISU's claims was that they thought they were being...
  8. duffer

    More false Coventry council claims exposed over Ricoh Wasps deal-Les Reid

    Appreciate that MMM. Let me lead you on a little more then - what if, instead of saying that time was needed to rebuild trust, the council had been honest and said, "We've got a third-party interested in the stadium based on a long leasehold for around x amount. Would you like the opportunity...
  9. duffer

    More false Coventry council claims exposed over Ricoh Wasps deal-Les Reid

    After categorically stating that time was needed to rebuild trust before talking about ownership again, wouldn't that actually have been the best course of action? Regardless of what was said in the JR about a deal, it related to a different point in time. When there was a (slim) chance of...
  10. duffer

    More false Coventry council claims exposed over Ricoh Wasps deal-Les Reid

    SISU were not given the chance to bid on even terms. Not even close. When were SISU offered the chance to bid for 100% of ACL with a 250-year lease? Otium were grudgingly offered 50% after the fact, with a deadline on the bid and no scope for negotiation, so that Higgs fulfilled the bare...
  11. duffer

    More false Coventry council claims exposed over Ricoh Wasps deal-Les Reid

    If the financial miscalculation - ACL being definitively profitable and without risk when it needed bailing out, and then being unprofitable when it needed selling to Wasps wasn't a flat out lie, then boy was it convenient for Lucas and CCC that they were told exactly the wrong thing at exactly...
  12. duffer

    More false Coventry council claims exposed over Ricoh Wasps deal-Les Reid

    If I've read it right MMM, the 'unfettered freehold' comment by Lucas was in Jan 2014: http://www.coventrytelegraph.net/news/coventry-news/coventry-city-council-leader-says-6600224 The letter stating 'long leasehold' might be acceptable was sent in November 2013, according to the Reid article...
  13. duffer

    More false Coventry council claims exposed over Ricoh Wasps deal-Les Reid

    Two things here that are factually incorrect: First, the idea that a letter written by (say) Seppala to Lucas would become Lucas's 'property' and then be either inadmissable in court or legally unpublishable. That's just not true SBK, not even slightly. Think it through - if your bank sends...
  14. duffer

    More false Coventry council claims exposed over Ricoh Wasps deal-Les Reid

    Mr SISU himself? It's good to see that you're not holding some sort of lazy prejudice here... Isn't the timeline like this: SISU say freehold or nothing in July, but then say they will consider a long-leasehold option in a letter in November? Regardless, the truth is that CCC didn't offer...
  15. duffer

    Council admits Ricoh Arena was not sustainable without CCFC

    That's not a red herring Pete, that lie has indirectly lead to Wasps owning the stadium revenues for the next 250 years. At one point it was claimed ACL was making lots of money and there was no pressure to sell to anyone, let alone CCFC, then suddenly it wasn't and the Council had to sell to...
  16. duffer

    Allsopp

    I'm not convinced that Allsop was a great keeper, but I really don't like the sound of how Pressley handled this. Surely as the manager you'd at least have a chat with the lad to explain what was happening - that seems like common courtesy to me. I do wonder about SP's man-management skills...
  17. duffer

    Council admits Ricoh Arena was not sustainable without CCFC

    I'm not convinced that you understand business projections, if you're projecting profit, then you're projecting profit - not turnover. And she's probably wrong by less than 0.000001% of the gross national debt of Trinidad & Tobago too, which is about as relevant. When you're making unequivocal...
  18. duffer

    Council admits Ricoh Arena was not sustainable without CCFC

    It's fair enough this stuff about looking forwards, but you've also got to have an eye on the past so that you don't make the same mistakes. What we seem to have learnt, is that CCFC can't do well as a tenant, and especially as a tenant without access to revenues. We've also learned that like...
  19. duffer

    Strong Claims about CCC/CET

    How would you know mate, given that you've never actually said something funny? Anyway, like you, this is a bit boring now and I wouldn't want to stop you working on your next hilarious posting. Good luck with that by the way.
  20. duffer

    Strong Claims about CCC/CET

    Says the man who gets the arse when he's asked a straight question - if you weren't trying to imply concern to Nick, then why not just explain that rather than heading down the old, tired 'tin-foil hat' route. That would have been fair enough. Maybe you're just not as funny as you think, eh.
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