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We do - but countries are living with this when they have minimal infections and no deaths. We are trying to live with it when we have 100 deaths a day. Does that not ring enormous alarm bells??

Angry middle aged men that go apoplectic if you don’t want to nuke the world. The Venn diagram of those that get really angry if politicians don’t want to nuke people and if they voted Leave may or may not be a single circle... (joke before anyone on here turns gammony)

We moved from BG to Shell Energy and dropped a similar amount. 100% renewable as well. There are loads of smaller companies coming through now offering good service and excellent pricing.

So deaths are relatively stagnant but infections are going down a bit... do you think this is because a drop in testing? Or conversely more people are dying in proportion to positive tests (and I know there is a time lag to factor in terms of positive test to death) - I wonder why?

Well we’re either all gonna have a buzzcut, skinhead, or hair like Joe Exotic...

I know we can’t - but would be a fun game.

We should all send a pic to Nick and then he can add to a new thread and we can all guess who is who!

I bet it’s been intentionally leaked to see how shit people think it is.

Sorry I misunderstood. Williamson told off for not breaking the unions, Long-Bailey criticised for being too close to them before her sacking - you wouldn’t think these people actually did an excellent job in raining in the government adequately over this partial return. They have acted more...

The Cummings effect...

I don’t think they WANT to keep us out but they have a duty to the safety of their members, and their families. I suppose there may also be some people that are worried about litigation if they were to transmit the disease and someone dies.

Indoor, overcrowded buildings that are poorly ventilated (lack of openable windows from a safety perspective) with a cohort of human beings that think they’re immortal - even if the kids are trying their best to adhere to distancing. Bugs, colds and flu go round normally in a school - why do...

Especially when schools of that size are in buildings designed for several hundred less. I know it’s only draft but you can bet your bottom dollar they did not consult with school leaders or unions. So inevitable resistance is coming.

They don’t look great to be honest just from a logistics point of view

Personally I worry about any indoor setting where we will be expected to be at normal capacity.

At least you told me off to save Dom coming in later to accuse me of wanting to stay in lockdown for the next 50 years.

I’m making the point that you can manipulate stats to say anything - just depends which ones you want to use and how you use them.

For lovers of statistics - today’s death rate is 60% higher than last Monday.

I was happy with his pledges that he ran on. I’m prepared to give him time, he has responded well to some things, and a couple of things concern me.

I was referring more to on the ground activists - sorry I wasn’t clearer.