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I don't mean the clothes and the music, I mean old horror movies, ghost stories, castles and abbeys, the romantic poets, thunderstorms, crypts and anything dark and atmospheric? Probably just me but I thought I'd ask.

Well you're no Byron Otis but very good nonetheless! Will you not be helping?

I'll dig the fucker out myself if it means we can move on!

I don't really understand why Nick is being singled out, there are posters with more radical views than his. If it's because it's his site then does the OP think he shouldn't express his views because of that? It makes no sense to me.

You tried that new veggie gaff yet Otis?

But then again it is kind of the ultimate forum compliment.

Isn't that what everyone does? Or do you reply to every post? He's entitled to his opinion like everyone else so put your dummy back in and shut up.

I think what he's getting at is there are thousands of different businesses that SISU could get the club involved in that would bring in a dollar. Trouble is, even that would require investment.

In the absence of a straight answer and bearing in mind your limitations I will leave the 'debate' at this point.

Do you still maintain that 'thousands' believe every word SISU say? Yes or No?

Don't change the subject. You said that thousands believe every word SISU say and when I asked you to name some you cited ''the thousands that wanted SISU to muller CCC in court.'' I say that is utter nonsense and would suggest that my own position (mistrust of SISU but wanting CCC brought to...

So that's one then, and an unhinged one at that. As far as court goes, I don't believe a word SISU say but I'd love them to screw CCC in court. Your theory seems a little flawed.

Would you like to name a few?

Where did I say there would be no further negotiations?

Wasps have nowhere to piss off to! It's not going to happen, the only way Wasps are going is via going bump.

They need us sooooo much that they are refusing to negotiate and have not moved on any single point. And Pax... there is more than one Wasp. :p

Here we go, round and round :)

You see... Mowbray Gardens have ordered a Venus fly trap, people have heard the two names and bingo!

Well you better hope they are going to build at BPA or elsewhere Bry, because if they don't it's game over at worst or L1/L2 for the next 10 years at best.

And what happens if it does? Or if it doesn't? We can't wait forever. As Chief Dave pointed out earlier, sometimes you can't go directly to your desired outcome. Sometimes you have to take the only available alternative to the shit you are in and worry about the long term later.