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  1. oldskyblue58

    Questions - football generally

    Why is football as a business model different to normal practice?. What is so different about it that makes any normal business model go out of the window - where owners make decisions they wouldnt normally? What makes it so different that its customers believe it is their right to demand that...
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    First win of the season

    Its only one game and three points...... doesnt solve anything, doesnt absolve anything. At the moment everything is possible - from selling the players and going down all the way to going on an incredible run to promotion ..... and all inbetween. None of it will change SISU's course, only their...
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    Maybe a simplistic view but...

    I always thought that the purpose of a forum was to have an exchange of opinion (maybe even accept someone might see things completely differently to yourself) ................. clearly I was mistaken:thinking about:
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    Article: Player Ratings v Derby

    As always a detailed and good summing up of the match :) There were a lot of encouraging signs from the team. The off field stuff was a disgrace and so poorly handled, people can try justify as no fire cert, not in our house or inappropriate but what matters is peoples perception - heavy hand...
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    change of mind

    They arent moaning they said no, and we remain stuck with them - not what i want but thats the facts. The fact that the business is making a loss affects the current value what they paid for it originally doesnt. The £30m are loans and are repayable not as such for sale. Until someone makes...
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    change of mind

    Sorry gaz have got to disagree Check the history and reports at the time. The other bid involved Geoffery Robinson and was not acceptable to the other major creditors or the council - there two groups interested one of which was not acceptable. So it was SISU or nothing Dont think SISU were...
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    change of mind

    Was the bid by GH ever credible ? - you didnt have to be financially skilled to realise that there was no way SISU would ever go for it. Got to be honest i found the whole process a waste of time riddled with conflict and inaccuracies on both sides. How SISU got hold of the club - when it was...
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    change of mind

    Clearly GH must be well respected with a decent business reputation to have got the jobs he has had. You dont get those jobs without ability and a proven track record. Whether he was a success or not in those positions I really dont know. What I would say is that reputation doesnt stop you...
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    FAQ 3 - The End?

    the loan against the season tickets is a form of factoring - the club allowed season ticket holders to buy over a number of months they arranged this with a finance company who paid CCFC money up front. That finance co. would recover the loans from the supporters and charge CCFC interest & fees...
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    FAQ 3 - The End?

    "If we bought the Higgs Trust option then we would become equal lease holders with ACL and therefore 50% of income stream share?" errr no we would become equal shareholders in ACL. Emphasis on shares. If you buy shares in BT you dont have a right to any of their income or assets (eg long...
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    What is the sisu masterplan

    what puzzles me on the contracts is that we give mcpake and bell longer contracts (both on the fringe of things) yest someone like Crainie there is no movement. Can see why some players like Eastwood offered nothing but I would have thought others stood out for extended terms
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    Been away for the week - where are these loans ?

    loan market only opened on thursday so you havent missed much ....... infact you havent missed a thing - away on holiday or work ccfcway ?
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    What is the sisu masterplan

    I think nonleagueherewecome every one assumes there is one end game and there are no options for SISU. Really just making the point that there are indeed other options. Am expecting that 2 to 5 years from now SISU will be gone. I really dont think it will happen before then - but you never know
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    FAQ 3 - The End?

    ACL accounts says that ACL owns the long lease not the council not Higgs trust and make no mention of any option on the lease (think it should do). ACL seperate legal entity. My understanding is the option is to buy the Higgs trust shares. Buying 50% interest in the lease would give access to...
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    FAQ 2 - Money Talks

    They have significance in so far as they seperate out the trading performance of each but in particular the football playing side. both companies form part of the SBSL group and it is those accounts that give the overall picture of trading and net worth (or otherwise). SBSL is the holding...
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    A big thanks to OSB and Godiva

    You are welcome. Just doing my bit to help. Thanks :D
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    Players of Nostalgia.

    Tommy Hutchinson - great entertainer
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    What is the sisu masterplan

    or they get the club to a profit situation and start charging interest on the loans so that they get some return for the investment funds. Which might buy time to improve saleability further
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    FAQ 3 - The End?

    wouldnt be the first time KD got it wrong. We have always been told there was no bank finance, I think KD is getting his words mixed up and means the SISU funds when he says Bank but until we get 2011 accounts wont know for sure. Cannot see any bank coming in and giving the club loans or...
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    change of mind

    no change of mind at all ..... I have always maintained a healthy scepticism of our owners present or past. We dont have an alternative as it stands, would be just as questionning of an alternative if one were found
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