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Both players are credible links given the need for a young CDM successor ….:

Maybe we need one more than one midfielder ?? Kelly has gone Howleys progress has slowed Sheaf is rumoured to be a target Maybe Allen wants a move to play more

@GIMOC not expecting you to name names but if you do know them are any of them names not linked to us before ?

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Why don’t we create a different thread for speculation from football journalists and then those that value such speculation can read it and those that don’t can continue to value what Mick from flat 3 told him down the pub, of they read on Facebook.

I do think we will add some experience this summer.

Experienced pros don’t always come off either …. Waghorn, Simon Moore. Maguire, Todd Kane,

This.

The price can only be judged at the end not the beginning …. He may cost twice the price but leave for 4 times the price. You can’t judge value from just the beginning

We don’t actually know. It was undisclosed. The Liverpool echo had the total package at between £6m-£8m. They are guessing too.

I wouldn’t. I would expect at least 70% was the base fee. Add ons are normally the minority of a deal not the majority.

I would say EMC is powerful rather than fast.

I’d like to see Torp in front of 2 CDM’s …. I think he would score more and create more than either of this seasons 10’s.

We don’t know that we have a first option. What we know is that we asked for one.

I think Andy is a good guy. I personally think Andy misses the point on where he / Cov Tele can add value to City fans / readers. I no longer expect him to break transfer news but I do think he can provide the City insights that other media outlets would not be interested in producing. I...

My only agenda is to assess things as objectively as I can …. I don’t always get that right but that’s my agenda. You mainly share negative snippets which means either your mate as a negative agenda or you do. I understood that under the SiSU regime but it’s less obvious now as to why either...

Still desperately hoping your contact is right eh @Saddlebrains ? Cabt be long now before your mate tells you Robins is really unhappy or some senior pros are unhappy with how Overson is being treated …..

Turner is well meaning but isn’t in the loop. He has to write multiple articles a day to feed the Reach digital machine ….. most are rehashed nonsense. When was the last time Andy truly broke a transfer story ????

Many of those were not in his preferred right side position. He played a lot on the left.

Leeds will have very material FFP issues this summer.