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Sometimes it does all feel unremittingly bleak. There's a great football-related article below on how, quite rightly, we sanction Russia for its outrageous behaviour in Ukraine, but ignore (and in effect support) Saudi Arabia's war in Yemen, where there have been similar impacts on civilian...

For all of the criticism of Biden, some of which is justified imho, there's no way this would be better under Trump. Putin wanted Trump in power, that's well documented, with Russia trying to directly influence both presidential elections. It's no coincidence that there's a substantial overlap...

Biden on twitter tonight again saying that there's no chance of NATO going into Ukraine. This is odd after at least vague threats from various parties of 'serious consequences' if Russia uses chemical weapons. Tactically, I can't help feel it's a mistake. We shouldn't be telling Putin what we...

Yes, what we're seeing is that Russia's much vaunted military forces are superb at shelling and bombing civilians, but don't seem quite so keen on actually taking on Ukrainian troops. That's a bit awkward when your stated aim is 'de-militarisation'.

No, no, fair enough. But it's hard to dispute that they've stepped up here in terms of refugees.

Not unfair when put that way, but this thread is about Boris after all. If politics completely derails football threads, then you've got a reasonable point, accepted.

Thanks for taking the time to post the update Pete. Regardless of opinions on the specifics, at least the club are talking to us!

Please define 'loony left', by policy, that's always a good place to start. Otherwise it's an empty insult. With apologies if that wasn't how you intended to frame it...

Alternatively, make the case wherever and whenever you can. Back your argument with evidence, because that's something that Tories aren't especially good at, and maybe you can make a difference in people's opinions here and elsewhere. Politics is important and it's a pity that more people don't...

Spot on - though I had to Google it, my Finnish is a little rusty. 😁

Despite the claims, I wonder if we might be able to do a little better on the military aid front too...

Completely agree, which says an awful lot about the moral abyss football has fallen into. If only the game had some kind of governing body who could make a stand on it, some sort of test for fit and proper ownership... Who knows, CD, maybe this will start the changes required, but I won't...

All valid points, and I hope that when the dust settles here we'll start to look again at how we use our influence in the rest of the world so that no one else has to live through this. Like you though, I'm at the point where I think it's time to push back a bit and see what appetite Putin...

Are you actually over there at the moment, mate?

... Just saying. 😁

SISU is a brilliant word in Finnish, no argument there. Whether the company of the same name who own us, deserve to be associated with it, is a whole different matter. Do the Finns have a word for "Reckless hedge fund who aren't very good at winning court cases against incompetent councils"...

I get the arguments about not escalating the conflict, I really do, but it's very hard not to feel in some way complicit in this. There's no legitimacy to attacking a children's hospital, at what point do you have to say 'enough'. Maybe we need to play Putin at his own game, offer as much...

The current lot make John Major look like Abraham Lincoln and Thatcher look like Mother Theresa. I don't think they're even real Tories, they're basically the slightly more polite but equally stupid wing of UKIP.

According to official figures, Ukrainian farmers are now the world's fifth largest armed force.

The pilots would like the planes back when you're done with them, please. 😁