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@slowpoke genuine question mate, are you ok?

https://www.fotmob.com/en-GB/players/962000/josh-eccles you can click through loads of stats, but there are lots of other sites too…

sorry, I’ve kind of been on your side a bit recently, but surely this is a wind up? you do get the joke don’t you? Also do you not watch any other football at all?

OK I’m bored of this now, so in summary: Eccles is a good player, a solid and improving midfielder who I am happy to have in the squad, and who definitely does a job in the team when he plays. He and Sheaf are similar, Sheaf in my opinion (and the stats probably back this up) is the better...

yet he’s played recently in that position preferred to Eccles, and played very well… and plays there internationally?

of course I can - my point is people are getting as excited about Eccles as they did when Maddison broke through, and part of the reason is probably he’s home grown, but the two are poles apart.

🙄 cracking argument pal

Lats is a very defensive midfielder and a better option when we set up defensively, as we’ve seen when he plays over Eccles, which he has done recently I’m not sure Robins chose not to bring in alternatives either, and you say over two transfer windows yet he’s brought in a midfielder this...

I’m trying to explain what I see as being behind some people’s opinions, and what you / others on this thread see as ‘hatred towards a homegrown player’ I don’t think it’s anything to do with the player as much as it is to do with some people believing he’s the best thing since sliced bread...

I personally think he’s a bit weak on the ball and often turns into trouble, his overall picture of what’s ahead and around him could be better… I don’t want to mention his corners, and actually fair play to him for persevering, but he needs to realise when to give up and let someone else have...

this is pretty much the point, he might have the attributes but you’ve said it yourself he needs to add to take his game to the next level, so he’s not there yet….and yet people act like he is, and / or like he has to be given the time because he’s home grown, which I’m not necessarily against...

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I don’t think this is the case - I’m not speaking for everybody of course, but I think the point with Eccles, which I’ve said before, is that he’s a decent player but he’s nothing special and personally I don’t see how people can argue otherwise…. He hasn’t ’made the position his own’, it’s...

both played for us this century 👍🏼

…better than Marcus Hall? and John Eustace?

@Martin180 I think you’re right if it’s €2m to Brighton I also didn’t realise this had already been done so last post from me on the subject, but I think it’s actually reduced to 10% on achieving certain objectives OR at sporting’s choosing, so around €8m then - “In addition, Coventry is...

I don’t know if that’s true or not, but even better if it is…. A lot of people here are already spending the millions they think we’re going to get paid though and I don’t think it’s anywhere near as much as some are hoping for

…in fact on reading again it might even be reduced ‘by 10%’, so the additional payment would only be 5% of any profit - so £3m

a) the release clause isn’t £100m, it’s around £80m, so the profit would be £60m, and b) the % sell on clause is 10% apparently because it dropped when he hit additional targets (appearance, goals, internationals etc) So it’s probably nearer £6m coming our way unless there’s a bidding war to...

…or Leeds I think he’s too creative for Russel Martin’s bore-ball so So’ton are out the question