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The form fell off a cliff at the end of the season while Viveash was still here

He's hardly going to come out publicly and slag off the coaching team

It won't have been him

It seems a self motivation issue. We were exceptionally lucky to have players like Hamer, O'Hare and Gyokeres in particular who had brilliant personal drive. I just don't think anybody in the current squad has really got that.

The clown you're responding to obviously fucked the club off between 2014 and 2023 judging by his absence from here, wouldn't be arsed if people of his entitled ilk fucked off again to be honest

Ferguson was the last United manager to win the league [emoji1782]

On your last paragraph more worryingly you know the players felt the same

Well it did really relative to the standard

The system has worked, all over the pitch the players are just not working hard enough. Especially without the ball either when we're out of possession or in possession.

EMC for their second just abysmal defending, his man the right back just runs past him and he's fixated on the ball.

All managers have a team around them?

His performances apart from a decent spell mid season have often been the same as today, the good run is looking more like a blip as every week goes by.

Most of them are currently going backwards

What is it then?

Would anybody have faith in the Head of Performance recruiting a new manager?

What's the Head of Performance's KPIs? We've not got a single player bar maybe Eccles who's performance levels have improved, most are in decline

This is mostly our first choice line up and we just look miles off, no intensity, no relationships, no organisation. Simms a waste of space offering us nothing. The players just don't look up for it.

Don't lose it cam it ain't worth it

I don't disagree, though I'm one the only people who seemed to rate Collins. Plenty on here called for a new keeper to be signed. That said, it's really early days for Dovin and he's a young keeper, it's not a massive issue if he gets pulled out to have a reset.

The consensus on here is that he's shite anyway isn't it