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Yeah absolutely, think he's pretty much the exception though. I'm not saying that. My point was specifically those 2 clubs are an exception. Most owners don't have neverending resources. Stoke's losses are eyewatering, they're literally being propped up by Bet365. Slightly better yes, we...

No, those 2 probably not in fairness but other rich fans might. Derby fans were convinced it would never happen with Mel Morris as he "loves the club"

Which is great until they do a Mel Morris & decide they're fed up of picking up the tab after repeated failures.

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7 or 8 years ago maybe & mostly in League 1. Not sure about picking Leyton Orient either, his tenure at Portsmouth was such a disaster I can't imagine he was highly sought after.

He's no Kenny Jackett that's for sure.

Yeah, can work for some as they are forced to get rid of dross they can't afford & rebuild. Everton though are so badly managed, they have absolutely zero idea what they want to be or direction they want to take. End up signing loads of players that don't really fit a system & then chop &...

Not sure relegation would do it. They need owners with a clue about football. I said back in June that they'd be in for a tough ride.

Think he & Hyam were switched last night as we know Davis likes to drift over to the left. Didn't work though as he absolutely bullied Hyam. In terms of technical ability Rose might be our best CB, in terms of his actual performances though he's certainly not.

Yeah, football creditors have to be paid in full. Imagine if Derby owed millions to a lower league club & didn't pay it all, they might end up in administration too. Derby have been incredibly fortunate that Arsenal don't need the money really, they've willingly deferred payments.

Nothing to do with what I think, it's fact, look it up. 16th, pretty much bang on mid table which is what he's arguing against (I think, difficult to keep track).

What you posted was factually incorrect. Now you're arguing against a point that nobody has even made? Spoiler alert: Whatever happens between now & the end of the season won't change the results that have already gone.

No, I said that what you posted was bollocks.

Even if you remove the first 12 games (no idea why you would, they count just as much as the last 12 but I'll play along) then we'd still be comfortably mid table.

Nowhere near. 15th.

Quelle surprise

Agreed. Their quality starting to show now. They're the 2nd best team in the league & just much more clinical.

Bapaga struggles in those games more often than not lately.

Seen them given for sure but he does grab Dabo first then goes down very easily.