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The whole point of a shirt sponsor is the exposure that company gets. If everybody opts not to have it on their shirt then their investment becomes pointless.

So pre orders won't be with us til at least 21st...

So the Panzo rumours may well have legs then

Is there enough left for his permanent CB though

Yes a CB and a forward player. Then it will be down to fitness and Hamer which decides if we need any mroe

I suspect that was partly what he meant when he said he would take stock after 3 more. He will see how long they are both still out for and potentially get another loan

I still disagree with you.

I think he lost confidence for a spell then lost his place. I think he has ability but I'd only sign him permanently not on loan

If we signed him permanently at least we could put the time in to improve him

You missed kelly

I read a Turkish report they had been agreed. Its just the medical left

He is but he has also played left side before in his career

You literally said you didnt rate him for the money, that is an opinion no? He has played and scored at a world cup. Played at a decent level in Turkey and scored 1 in 2. No one is claiming he is the finished article but clearly there is ability there. Other bigger clubs have offered similar...

Surely it's the same thing. You are just choosing to read the negative ones to suit your own opinion

Like Swansea fans did with gyokeres?

Rotate them. Use them for 60 minutes and bring the other on. Options are things we only dreamed of last season with maguire sitting there on the bench

Its a classic case of moan we dont spend money then moan we spend too much

Not what is reported in Turkey. They are saying 7mil plus bonuses

Its reliable journalists reporting it though not bedroom teenagers

Van Ewijks has come through in just 3 working days. Its the work permit he needs anyway not the cleaerance