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For welcoming an out of town rugby club despite being up in arms about their football club? If there was an award for hypocrisy and double standards we'd win it at a canter.

There excusing it. It's simple, do you think both CCFC and CRFC are part of the cities culture? If yes, all the other stuff is irrelevant to the topic, which is a culture bid.

Fuck sake. The relationship between the council and the club should have no bearing on whether the club is part of the cities culture. You are saying it's ok for CCFC not to be part of the bid as the relationship is broken.

Excuse my stupidity for a moment, but if he asked it to remain confidential, why has a statement been released?

I give up. We're now on to the councillors are CCFC fans. The same councillors who voted to sell the stadium built for us to a London rugby team. They can do no wrong in some peoples eyes and are excused on everything they do. They don't like the club, have little affinity to it (just like big...

Appalled that people think because SISU and the council don't like each other, it's ok to erase CCFC from the cultural side of the City. Not sure what is hard to understand.

CCFC are either a part of the culture or they're not. It shouldn't be dependent on money, or bad news, or court cases or anything of the sort. The fact that fans think that is the case and it's acceptable is appalling IMO.

Really? So you don't agree with Stupot's post? Which I believe sums it up very well. CCFC fit into the cities culture via FA cup, Jimmy Hill and recently checkatrade. Not exclusive to just these. Now when doing the presentation, have they covered Wasps losing the league or Wasps winning? Would...

So now we know they have been actively promoting the bid. Are we going to ask why they have been excluded from the bid? Are we going to acknowledge stupot's points about why we are not in the bid? Or are we still going to scream SISU?

Or if you're on Christmas card terms with the local council. Or if you're actively assisting the bid.

SISU being wankers shouldn't alter a thing. Using that reasoning let's the council do what they want. That shouldn't be allowed. I acknowledge you making the effort towards the club in getting them involved. I also appreciate that not actively being part of the bid might mean your not centre...

Does that not raise the question of, do the council actually give a shit about culture? As mentioned before they wanted to close Herbert art gallery. Is it very cultural to discard a part of your cities culture because of personal feelings?

I've answered it countless times over the thread, but just for you. Culture isn't actively taking part in a culture bid. So it's fucking irrelevant if CCFC have actively taken part or not. As I've said Lady Godiva hasn't actively taken part in the bid but she's included.

The council are putting their issues with SISU before the club and the culture bid. Then again, we know that, as they sold the Ricoh to Wasps. Which simultaneously put the future of both CCFC and CRFC in jeopardy. Thing is, the current council haven't been here as long as the club has. Yet they...

For those that are struggling. This is the definition of culture. Patronising, I know, but if it works for OSB, why not a simpleton like me? The way of life, especially the general customs and beliefs, of a particular group of people at a particular time: Do we not think that CCFC has been a...

Patronising. Nice. Why instead of querying what have CCFC have done, why not query why the council seem intent on erasing us out of the city and it's history? The council should be shouting about everything that is of cultural importance, not just who is nice to them etc.

I appear to have a better grasp of culture than you or the leading councillor you speak of have. Culture isn't about the relationship between the club and council. Or the specials and the council. Or Godiva and the council. In effect, what you and the councillor are saying is, that if you upset...

Why do they have to offer to be part of the culture bid? That isn't how culture works. Comes back to my point of Lady Godiva, did she come back from the dead and say she wanted to be part of it. You talk some shit.

Which again, is irrelevant to why the club is not considered to be part of the bid.