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  1. skybluetony176

    Starmer lost control of borders

    Ahh okay. So if that’s your metric the trend under Labour (although there’s yet to be a full year with Labour in government) is down. Considerably. So based on that shouldn’t the thread title be Conservatives lost control of borders.
  2. skybluetony176

    Starmer lost control of borders

    The one thing no one is talking about is where the money is coming from. It’s not just that Jenkyns is saying it’s £12B, which it clearly isn’t, she also wants you to believe it’s new money. It isn’t. The majority if not all of the money is coming from the ODA fund. It’s money already spent only...
  3. skybluetony176

    Starmer lost control of borders

    Going by the date on your link then shouldn’t the thread title be Sunak lost control of the borders?
  4. skybluetony176

    Starmer lost control of borders

    Ahhh, that’s cute. You actually believe that Rwanda was a credible plan. Labours plan was far more effective. Just simply process them. Hence the successful reduction in approvals and why they’ve returned more home in their first 6 months than would have been sent to Rwanda in 100 years at the...
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    Starmer lost control of borders

    That’s fell under Labour to around 41% you’ll be pleased to hear. They’re also processing them faster than the Tories ever did so they’re being sent back quicker than ever. Just a shame we’re no longer part of the Dublin agreement, it no coincidence that the number of boats crossing went up so...
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    Starmer lost control of borders

    So.. does that mean that the title thread should read Cameron, May, Johnson, Truss and Sunak lost control of the borders?
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    Boris on his Way.

    Imagine what the press would be saying about him if he wasn’t a rich white man with influence but instead was a working class guy with that many children from that many baby mamas, many of who he’d abandoned like good old Alexander. And what would they say about the working single mothers with...
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    Kier stands up for the UK. Chagos.

    The UK leases land at huge costs all around the world and mainly in former colonies for military bases. The Chagos was an unusual case because we basically annexed it like a dictatorship and then because of the legal process we actually know what this is costing unlike other leases which aren’t...
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    Kier stands up for the UK. Chagos.

    Are you sure about that?
  10. skybluetony176

    Do you want to discuss boring politics?

    Is it better to have an extra £100B in trade every year or not? In terms of economics (which is what your question is really about) you’d take the 50% tariff everyday vs not loosing the £100b in trade with the EU.
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    Do you want to discuss boring politics?

    Except for that time it did “With Labour, Britain will stay outside of the EU. But to seize the opportunities ahead, we must make Brexit work. We will reset the relationship and seek to deepen ties with our European friends, neighbours and allies. That does not mean reopening the divisions of...
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    Southport Stabbing

    The snowflakes fawning over this woman on here is hilarious. A) she did the crime B) she didn’t even get the maximum sentence and C) her appeal was based on her playing the victim. If you can’t do the time… I don’t see the same people (or anyone else for that matter) fawning over Roger Hallam...
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    Southport Stabbing

    This 2 tier thing. Are people suggesting that she got of lightly because she was potentially facing a maximum 10 year sentence but because she’s white and married to a Tory councillor she only got 2 and half years? Can only assume that’s the case as she certainly could have had a far heftier...
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    Do you want to discuss boring politics?

    Malc. The tories spent £700 million hoping to deport 1000 people to Rwanda. Labour returned 24000 illegal immigrants by the end of December simply by getting on with what the Tories wouldn’t, they processed them and it didn’t cost £700 million. Rwanda was red meat for morons to a problem the...
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    Do you want to discuss boring politics?

    But they are vetted. From your own link it tells you that they are on visas, visas are vetted. They also don’t get automatic free access to healthcare, they have to have immigration healthcare insurance for access to the NHS, it’s part of the visa application process and is a yearly fee. If...
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    Trump is my favourite comedian of the year already

    Someone basic maths for you. Leaving the EU costs the UK economy £100B a year in lost trade. Last year we sold the US around £60B IIRC. You’re celebrating at best losing £100B to gain about £6B. I’m not sure that’s the win you think it is. That’s before you even factor in that the point of...
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    Trump is my favourite comedian of the year already

    The naivety in this statement is staggering. Trump is deliberately orchestrating a worldwide trade war that’s going to be felt in every country in the world regardless of whether they had zero tariffs applied to their goods or slightly smaller tariffs than anyone else. The last time the world...
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    Trump is my favourite comedian of the year already

    They’re already banning certain books so technically they are minus the actual theatrics of burning them.
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    Do you want to discuss boring politics?

    Estimated 100k extra civil servants due to Brexit. Average civil servant wage is just over £33k a year.
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