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Yeah, he's either stupid and hasn't understood what has been said to him or he is intentionally lying about what has been said.

No I didn't, I thought it became Genocide when it became clear the intentions where not solely to get any hostages but to wipe out the population of the Gaza Strip. When did I say these words "‘vile terrorist actions’ (your words) in October because ‘genocide had begun"?

I mean stopping all aid and food entering the Gaza Strip and letting civilians starve can not be call legitimate acts of war.

Yep, the Genocide by Israel was not labelled a Genocide and nor was it a Genocide at the start. A point @Mucca Mad Boys doesn't really care about though.

Read the UN definition, you are an apologist for war crimes at this point.

No, we were comparing your example of the actions of Hamas on 1 day vs the actions of Israel for the whole conflict. We are not going to let you change the parameters because you are wrong.

I have explained this using the South Wales Derby example and taken onboard his UK based fan example and showed him how it can be easily done.

Ok, they have to get to B'ham airport and then get on the same buses to the ground Same as a Swansea fan living in London has to travel past Cardiff to go to the Swansea ground to get on a bus to the Game and is then bussed back. Better luck next time fella.

I am applying the same definition and we have clearly explained to you the difference in the actions as compared the the internationally agreed definition. When does war become genocide? Why are you throwing pretty shite straw men into this now? You compared the actions of Hamas on the 7th of...

And? If you are a Swansea fan who wants to go to your game away at Cardiff you have to go to Swansea first even if you live in say London. Unlucky

It's the definition mate, that is what matters and if an act falls under that. Genocide is something there is a set international definition of. Why is that so hard for you to understand?

If it is overturned, maybe they could "bubble" match the game like they do for games like Cardiff vs Swansea. Only allow them to use certain flights in and bus straight o ground and back again to airport. It can't be accused of being "Anti Semtic" as this is how UK police deal with high risk...

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It's almost as if he has decided the position he should take but hasn't actually taken the time to find out why.

Did they intend to kill all or most of the population? No, why can't you understand what Genocide actually means Once again, who has supported Hamas?

That isn't the gotcha you think it is, everyone will admit that B'ham having a large Muslim population is part the decision as they are worried that the away teams fans will try and wind up and get at the local muslim population.

As I said the question asked today was not "what would Hamas do if it could?", instead it was "what did Hamas actually do?".

You mean the Leicester game where BTA did an outstanding job of supporting JDS in his defensive work against probably the best winger in the league?

Who has defended anything? What people are saying is that according to the clearly defined definition of "Genocide" this wasn't it. The question also isn't "What would Hamas do if it had access to weaponry like the Israeli army does?", it was compared to the definition of "Genocide" was the...

there are almost 10m people in Israel, did they intend that day to kill most or all of them that day? No, it was a vile terrorist attack