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Well, by the looks of it, a fair few have already decided he is.

Don't think we can say that before he's even got into No. 10.

P It wasn't a short period of time. Look at the level of interest rates. People pay a hell of a lot more on a monthly basis and many more lost their homes because of Truss and her fucked up policies.

Colour me shocked.

It's almost like people want Labour to fail just because of Starmer.

I guess that's the point.

Exactly! Just what I've been banging on about.

Yes, staggering. The 2007–2008 financial crisis, or the global financial crisis (GFC), was the most severe worldwide economic crisis since the Great Depression. Predatory lending in the form of subprime mortgages targeting low-income homebuyers,[1] excessive risk-taking by global financial...

Following Farage around the country?

US lenders caused the 2008 global crash.

No, they didn't.

They didn't crash the economy.

So, I presume your £60K example is net pay? If so, then the gross would be getting on for £90K pa. Hardly average. Maybe it could be done, but you're making a lot of assumptions on average family outgoings.

Which is why I'm disputing "average" family here. Very comfortable, family with no mortgage, family who eat very little, but "average"? No way.

Might be doable for you, but I certainly couldn't afford £21K or £36K a year out of our family budget. I doubt many "average" families could. Great, if you can afford it as we all want the best possible start in life for our kids, but to say that's attainable for the average family, even if...

Edited my post: Average cost is now £6944 for day pupils and £12344 for borders. Per term. If you're saying that the average person/family can afford that then my family is WAY below average in what we earn.

Average person maybe, but not average salary. Average cost is now £6944 for day pupils and £12344 for borders. Per term.

Nah, if you can afford private education for your kid(s) then you're not on an "average" salary.

Yet, he couldn't engage enough people to vote for him in 2017 or 2019. It's a shame those around him didn't explain that well attended rallys and people singing his name at Glastonbury makes little difference at the end of the day. To change lives for the better Labour need to be in Government...

Looking at most platforms online, those who slag Starmer off the most tend to be to the left. They attack him more than the Tories do. Not the most exciting of politicians, but I don't want exciting. I don't want a narcassist like Johnson or a near billionaire like Sunak, I want someone...