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  1. mrtrench

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    It'll be up and down just as it always is. I expect a large fall tomorrow. The City likes volatility.
  2. mrtrench

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    I think Farage is toast now. Vote Remain and if anything it's more likely.
  3. mrtrench

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    BTW, I must say, I was reading the thread on the Labour Party the other day and I thought what an intelligent and tolerant debate it was. Far better than the tosh I've seen on my FB page - many of which emanated from supposedly intelligent grammar school alumni and almost universally graduates..
  4. mrtrench

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Are you Sturgeon's Mum? ;) Is she a very naughty girl?
  5. mrtrench

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Not you :) I've quit Facebook for the time being because so many of my friends were claiming that out voters were stupid and racist; signing petitions to have the referendum results annulled (I'm aware of the irony that it was a leaver that set that up) and so on and so on... One old friend...
  6. mrtrench

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Well isn't that how many voted: "on the balance of probability which is the better path?" You are right; I think that the EU will fail long before it becomes The United States of Europe - and this is why: I think that you cannot control the huge variety of local economies with a single...
  7. mrtrench

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    In my opinion it's pain either way - the choice is between some pain and risk now or the long drawn out pain of remaining until the EU implodes.
  8. mrtrench

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Tony, you are still thinking in binary. Controlling immigration doesn't mean no immigration. Lack of a free trade agreement doesn't mean no trade. Leaving the EU doesn't mean that companies in Eire are going to sack your family - why would they?
  9. mrtrench

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Apologies, I was intending to support you. On social media all the bitter remainers have been claiming that there are 17 million bigoted racists that voted. And yet I don't know a single racist and apart from Mart's (now hackneyed) accusation not one person on here has mentioned voting leave...
  10. mrtrench

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    And of all the opinions on here, not one lists race as an issue.
  11. mrtrench

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Given that many older people voted Leave, we should leave it a little while before the second referendum and then some will have died. We could also change the voting paper to have double negatives etc. to catch all the stupid people who voted incorrectly. Or we could simply change some of the...
  12. mrtrench

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Nothing to do with Greenspan and Brown?
  13. mrtrench

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Are you really that intelligent and well informed that you can so easily discount 52% of the population? Please remind me of the definition of bigot.
  14. mrtrench

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    I wouldn't go that far - the SNP will probably seize the opportunity to have another referendum. It may not be in their best interests, not only because of the oil price, but as politicians they don't care about what is best - they care only for power.
  15. mrtrench

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Sorry, I didn't realise you were expecting a response to the post - here's an attempt a) ECONOMY. No brainer, much better in. Not proven and certainly not a no-brainer. a) Economists are all talking about GDP - GDP growth doesn't equate to wealth of individuals and I calculated that if the...
  16. mrtrench

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    I must live in a bubble; I've never heard anything but admiration for Eastern Europeans.
  17. mrtrench

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Syria and Turkey I buy. Eastern Europeans; really?
  18. mrtrench

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Yes, a bit of an oxymoron. But the point is sound IMO; racists generally go for people with different coloured skin - Europeans are all white but the Indians, Malaysians, Africans etc. who will be able to come in greater numbers if we were not in Europe are not.
  19. mrtrench

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    ... and Billy Bragg? I like his music; hate his politics.
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