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The 4 players I would bench from that line up are Phillips, Stokes, Swanson and Maddison. All should be pushing 4 new men for a start. Ideally Tudgay, Burge and Johnson would not be automatic choices either. A long way to go before we will be competitive IMO, half a team in fact.

Sorry, that team is worse than the one that nearly got relegated. Minimum of 4 players need replacing and the bench is nightmarish.

FA cup semi final at Hillsboro

Villa is a big club. Villa is a much bigger club than CCFC. They are not in the United, Arsenal, Chelsea class though, but their fans who I know believe they are. There was nuance in my post not hatred.

Plus, Villa fans have delusions of being a truly big club and always dismissed ccfc as crap even when we were higher, better, beat them etc Plus, lots of Cov born and bred people supported Villa even when ccfc were on a par with them, which is a disgrace at any time, obviously.

I meant no offence. You clearly do by use of the word "ridiculous".

Gint11, I don't think we see things the same way. I don't think you get my point but I'll give up as it seems to be causing offence to some. No offence meant on my part.

We are all selfish but we don't all hide it behind "for my family". That was my point. Just be honest about your motives. Saying you're doing it for your family is just trying to make yourself look noble to other blokes, probably impresses some women too.

We agree. However, not everyone is motivated by money alone. I could have earned more by switching firms but it didn't motivate me. I have enough money for my needs. Westwood earned more by moving but he'll have few medals or memories to show his kids and grandkids when he's older. All I'm...

Great. That makes you normal not a saint. I do the same. Looking after one's own does not qualify us for any reward.

So why do people add "and my family" ?

Myself and my family? Do people mean myself, but think it sounds too selfish so add family even though that is just as selfish? "Me and mine" is selfish, just be honest, as selfishness is just as acceptable and understandable to most folk. Only a monster is not "me and mine" but it doesn't make...

We need a new scapegoat now that Barton has gone. We usually go for a midfielder who fails to tear around like a terrier at the beach so CT could be that man. As such he will go up in my estimation as scapegoating always hits my unfairness button and I respond by defending them.

Is this Aussie team unravelling or will they pull themselves together? Time will tell but it will be interesting to see If Clarke's back holds up. If Starc's ankle firms up. If Smith can score runs in England and look as if he belongs to a team. If Johnson can get his line and length right at...

Three cheers for our sad state of weakness!

2 midfielders and 3 strikers, for me, is the most urgent. Worrying that we are so poorly funded that we have to wait a month into the season for prem or champ cast offs. If we do get loans I would want one quality striker on full season loan, no use having to send him back in January. It looks...

Ben Dover is just lacing his boots.

Properly attach the source of quotations in your points to avoid ambiguity. Try footnotes, the Oxford or the Harvard system of referencing will suffice. Nah, misunderstandings are the lifeblood of forums. Kindly do not attempt to cloud the issue with facts.

Spare a thought for the teachers who have to spend hours in a classroom with kids like these with no back up and "you can't touch me, speak to me like that, I won't come to your detention, my dad will batter you" etc etc

:slap:For film fans the reference to canaries singing and flying was mobster Lee J Cobb in On the waterfront 1954 with Marlon Brando