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  1. M

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    No, it’s just that I prefer you to stick to facts instead of making things up.
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Where do you get this crap. The world is not perfect, but you are portraying a hell hole again. I have no idea where your village is, but you seem to lead a horrible life. Do you think Javid is a fifth columnist? Are you seriously blaming migrants for everything in the hell hole?
  3. M

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    No, you used false equivalency.
  4. M

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Yes, she pushed for the single market and got it through. But you won’t allow that as it includes FOM and you don’t like that at all.
  5. M

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Yes, but they are UK loopholes and we have had successive governments who have let things run. They probably thought that was ok as the economy was recovering and we had nearly full employment. If there had been massive unemployment the government may have acted differently, but the economy...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    The thing is the targets are artificial anyway. Just thought up to counter UKIP which was stealing votes. They sound good to people who don’t like FOM or foreigners. The 90 days rule for staying without an income already exists for EU citizens. EU citizens provide a range of skills from...
  7. M

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    No. I know that that it is exactly the opposite to what is happening in the EU. They are trying to plug loopholes that allow people from the east to work in Germany and pay their stoppages in their own country which makes them cheaper than German staff. The idea is to stop people undercutting...
  8. M

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    No. Blame it on the EU.
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Not only that, but in Astute‘s link we are now going to close a loophole whereby agency staff can work for less money than permanent staff. Things like that wind up people in low paid jobs ( rightly so ). That is not the fault of EU citizens or the EU. We could have and should closed such...
  10. M

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    No. I thought the Germans would have done a deal to sell cars and that we would be eating French cheese and drinking Prosecco by now. No one mentioned being up sxxt creek without a paddle.
  11. M

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Would you like to show anything finalized about workers‘ rights?
  12. M

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    We cannot put it to bed into it actually happens.
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Because we agreed the budget. You said we don’t have to pay. That is not correct. In the very best case we can contest it. But, we cannot avoid paying some or all of it. You now claim that if we have to pay it will take years. I also said we will have years of litigation. Your original...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    I am for the latest news, which is why I asked if it had since happened. Looks like it may happen ( or has it happened ? )? The main thing is the gig economy, which avoids labour laws. Labour says that hasn’t been dealt with. It is good to see progress.
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    You said we don’t have to pay. That is an assumption. It is not a fact as stated in the links and I hold that opinion. If you can prove conclusively that we don’t have to pay, then go ahead.
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Workers' rights could be reviewed after Brexit, officials say There was something about strengthening workers rights in the gig economy. How is that coming on? Did it happen?
  17. M

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Here we go. Workers‘ rights have been eroded, reduced but the basic rights are there. Even in France paid holiday will not be reduced below 4 weeks as that is guaranteed by the EU. Macron‘s stated aim is to bring French labour laws more in line with the UK/ USA laws. Downwards. The EU will not...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    If you read the article, you would see how it is calculated. It is a net figures and includes the EIB. We signed up for EIB guarantees which we may have to honour. Whether or not the arguments are correct that article 50 superscedes the Vienna convention, there is enough doubt about that to...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    The actual course of the conversation was that bull fighting was bad as an example of animal cruelty in the evil EU. Tony said yes, but there is also Animal cruelty here and in the rest of the World. That obviously upset you. You say you always look at both sides, and now you are accusing Tony...
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