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Funniest thing I ever saw was a Peter Kay thing when he worked in a bingo hall. Keith Lard the fire officer who "bums dogs"

Just us in different shirts really. No clue, no fight, no ability. I'm too busy mourning one of the worst seasons I ve suffered to care about them

Give this one a miss

I'm sorry you experienced this behaviour. Even in a country that I am proud to belong to and feel stacks up pretty well there are morons. I think what I am saying is that there are plenty of factors other than our foreign policy at play. Thousands if not millions of people long to come here...

Its the fans fault

If we can put a run of 3 wins together we are right back in it, maybe even autos

Despite your anti British stance you must see some merit to the place?

Gentleman thank you for an interesting discussion. All opinions respected by me, agreed or not. Lets hope for a brighter, safer future for future generations.

Lets try and keep it civil, its a topic worthy of rational discussion.

I admire your opinions and thoughts SBT. I do just think that history shows to quote Osama that the strong horse wins

I do actually feel that is the ultimate conclusion for a number of European countries, not in my lifetime but eventually.

Multiculturalism is a dream, a noble dream but a dream nonetheless. One culture will always crave power over the others. It is usually the most unyielding and agressive one. For years it has been "western" culture and now the tide is turning. No amount of pavement chalking and human chains will...

This sounds like an eye for an eye though?

Yes the problem is that as tempting as an alternative minority party may be you always have to question their ability to govern. Trouble is how will they ever get the ability without the experience

I doubt any of the serious parties would have done much different though.

Is it though, its the same as the valid point of not blaming your average muslim for the actions of extremists or blaming evey Irishman for a minority of gun toting paramilitary groups. If anyone I know is ever killed in a Brussels type attack I sure as hell won't be blaming myself for voting...

Ok this is for once by and large a decent debate so let me put this into the mix. 1/ Brussels type attack "don't put all muslims in the same basket". I agree normal muslims should not come to harm as a result of this. 2/ Idiot western leaders bomb middle east. Normal westerners kind of have...

This is where we agree. I think we are screwed either away. This has been a very clever battle waged over a nunber of decades alongside rank incompetence in foreign policy

So we are kind of asking for it. This is intetesting and I sense this feeling quite prominently at the current time almost to the point of smugness in some quarters. Its quite disturbing and I'm sure is picked up on by those higher up the organization designing these attacks

I suggest that I hope this tactic works but I have my doubts. I don't think reconciliation is on their agenda.