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Same here Stupot, loads of my Dad's family were from Newcastle and surrounding villages. Another reason for me to dislike Sunderland!

Sorry but if that's your utopia, its certainly not mine. If we became dependant on Wasps, swapping one bastard of a hedge fund for another I would be done. I want SISU gone, Wasps gone. It depresses me that your slavish devotion to wasps blinds you to the fact that they are just another faceless...

Sorry your comments about Saracens are absolute garbage. Done to try to disprove that a club can leave London and move back. No major incomes? are you suggesting Allianz sponsor it for free? Propped up by an owner and in debt, ironic that it sounds just like Wasps to be honest Notice it's just...

How did Saracens manage to do it then?

You are right Dave, some people choose to ignore the reality like Saracens move back to London, as all they want to believe is its fiction.

Yes because without knowing who our new owners would ever be, how would we ever know how much they are worth. Try looking longer term than Hoffman and Co, if they ever get their hands on the club, as their intention will eventually be to move the club on to its next stage.

Ok. I disagree that wasps success is linked to ours though, our Club will be here whether Wasps are in Coventry, London, or wherever Richardson chooses next.

How do we ever own it? well change of Club ownership on our part, and Wasps moving on would certainly help this. I don't wish Wasps to go bust, I have no problem with them thriving, I just don't wish it to be in Coventry. I respect that because I feel that this doesn't mean it will ever happen...

Fair enough, but it does seem to be the prominent direction of discussion, so to try to bat Wasps out of it is probably doomed to failure, and on previous history it again looks like you are trying to divert anyone away from criticising Wasps, whether that is the case or not.

I thought you being away* might bring you some sense but I was sadly mistaken. The ownership of the stadium we play in does have an affect on our future as at the moment whoever owns us we are hamstrung at the whim of the deal wasps offer us. Its very simple but you just cant grasp that fact. We...

This post relates to Wasps. Weeman mentioned them in his post. You keep trying the deflection away from wasps. We can argue endlessly in other threads about why we are in Division Two. You can start another if you wish, but this one relates to Wasps.

It wouldn't be his first time.

Fuck me, I said I disagreed with you, and not that you were wrong. What a drama queen.

I have no problem with Wasps thriving, but I would be pleased if it was no longer in Coventry.

Have never understood why they do this. Its a business, clubs need money, why put people off by charging more on the day?

Look I disagree, deal with it and stop banging on to try to prove your point. Just grasp that the people I know who support Rugby teams don't swap between the Premiership teams, and yes the people who know do.

Well done. We know different people.

The saints mates I have go to Saints only, as do the ones supporting Tigers, if that's ok with you. The ones I know would not go to see a rival team in the same league. Easy enough for you to comprehend?

Fair enough Dongo, we agree to disagree on some points, but we obviously know people who have taken different stances re their support of Rugby teams, and I respect that you know people who have reacted differently to those that I know. Re Wasps and CCFC I can understand what you are saying but...