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Oh, right - you think the 2+2 deal isn't a lease. You're thinking it's a rent deal for a set period. The set period being 2+2 years. Possible, but either way, if Wasps broke it they'd be up before the court wouldn't they? So again, let's not pretend that the council have asked them to do...

Indeed. Remind me again when they turned down a 250-year lease? Here's a good quote too. "As for the future, I think we should take one day at a time and not get ahead of ourselves and use this period to rebuild trust." “All parties concerned need to learn to open doors the door for one...

I don't think you've understood how leases work... https://www.gov.uk/terminating-a-commercial-property-lease-early They actually aren't that easy to break. The tenant can sue to remain in the property, and not just for financial loss. Wasps had no option but to honour the contract, to...

The club don't have to sign up to any agreement - but the council could have insisted on a whole bunch of stuff that would secure CCFC's right to a tenancy under certain set terms for as long as Wasps remained. That would've been part of the deal to sell to Wasps, and would not require any...

And how would Wasps break the contract, exactly. Wind up ACL? How much help do you think Wasps will offer to CCFC in the future. Do you think they'll willingly let them buy the 50% that Higgs own, for example? What benefit is it to CCFC to simply remain as a tenant at the Ricoh?

Then they haven't learned mate, because CCFC leaving the city forever is a lot worse than we have now, and what the Council have done has just made it a lot more likely. They could've offered the same deal to CCFC that they offered to Wasps. They could have insisted on some contractual...

That's what bugs me Otis. All this time I've stuck up for the council and Higgs against SISU, I think with at least some degree of justification, and then they do this. It's just so hasty and ill-judged. It's like Wasps came and did a presentation to the Councillors along the lines of, we'll...

They couldn't wriggle out of the 2+2 deal to the club anyway, it's contractual. They could've taken the SISU way and wound ACL up I suppose, but then neither they nor Higgs would make any money. So, in terms of the council's 'deal breakers' what guarantees did they put in place to protect...

Ah no, they're only supporting franchise sport in rugby according to Cllr Maton. Possibly. And the future of CCFC at the Ricoh, turns out that's down to whatever deal they can do with Wasps. Clearly the council hasn't done anything concrete to protect CCFC or CRFC, despite any risk to either...

There's always a first time :)

The clear the debt, takover ACL, and extend the lease was broadly speaking Fisher's 'roadmap', I think. Regardless, I can't see any reason why the Wasps deal couldn't have been put forward to the club. Whatever JS or TF may or may not have said, it looks like the club might've been interested...

Ah no, now I'm not SISU's biggest fan, but I'm pretty sure that TF suggested a long-leasehold is pretty much the same as ownership. http://www.coventrytelegraph.net/news/coventry-news/buying-land-new-coventry-city-6404266 As I've said before, notwithstanding SISU's continued statements...

Got to love it -- the liquidator, Appleton, is on holiday again. Probably just me, but I've got an image of him hacking through the jungles of central america, whip and revolver in hand, still in search of the Golden Share. :)

Where it goes wrong is if you're taking a top-division team away from their historic fanbase, and moving it to (say) Telford. That means that those fans, which for the real Wasps seems to include around 7,000 die hards, are deprived of watching their team play at the top level. Unless you're...

I don't think Higgs 'invited' the offer, fwiw. Because CCFC Ltd were still in existence, I think they were contractually obliged to allow that entity to make an offer for the share. The tricky thing is, are they contractually obliged to accept it - or can they just hand it over to their...

Y'see as someone who lived in West London, and Slough(!) - I wouldn't really differentiate geographically between Sudbury and QPR (or QPR and Brentford for that matter). And hacking out to Wycombe wouldn't be great either - but at least it's the right side of town and not the worst place to get...

Barton as a libero, eh. Posh word for sweeper. Which in itself is a posh word for a centre-half that doesn't mark. Or tackle. ;) Joking aside, it might work for Barton in a 3-5-2... maybe... just. :)

Credit where credit's due - the club do at least seem to be listening and trying on the pricing and other issues.

This would be the poll run by BT Sport, right? I watched the Wasps v Bath game (splitter!), but didn't notice the poll - I think they said that during the show it had been 50/50 on twitter. Interesting, given of course that most of the die-hard fans were actually at the game watching live...

Hi Dai, you must be the only one here who does respect my opinion, so thanks for that. :) Honestly, if it had been me at the council I simply wouldn't have countenanced the offer from Wasps, because of the franchise issue. But leaving that huge moral showstopper aside, I think the way I...