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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    We won’t be ok as regards getting favourable trade deals. We will survive, but be weakened. Great. Brexit is really not in the UKs interests.
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    The EU has said that in a no deal there will not be a transition period, but there would be some leeway, for example for financial services, to avoid problems, but that is not to be confused with the transition period and would be much more limited. The UK would have to negotiate a temporary...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    There are different time limits in different areas. There is not a blanket one year. They have negotiated. The EU is a rule based organisation. We know that, we helped write the rules. Those are their red lines. They offered us deals at the beginning. May turned them down and set her red lines...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Sovereign parliament takes control from weakening government. Sovereignty innit.
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    No deal would put us in the weakest negotiating position possible when it comes to trade deals. We would be a distressed trading partner and have to take any old crap to avoid being stuck in WTO rules. No responsible government would put us in that position. If the EU wanted to punish a country...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    The EU doesn’t have to negotiate any alternative. They have spent 2 years negotiating and have got a withdrawal agreement agreed by the 27 remaining EU countries and by the UK.
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    In what meaningful way have the EU waivered? How come we don’t hold all the cards as we were told? What happened to the cards? How come they are now dictating? Do you think trade deal negotiations with the EU and others will go better when we are out? I don’t. We will be in an even weaker...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Sign the no deal petition 10 times to balance it out. Lots are claiming that. All leavers funnily enough. There are checks and apparently if they find fraud they delete it. But, I bet some get away with it by creating new addresses. Still, both petitions are equally vulnerable. Why aren’t the...
  9. M

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    I‘d hardly call Brexit swept under the carpet.
  10. M

    Tim said we are moving to rugby

    They paid 250 years up front. A million pounds. If my memory serves my right.
  11. M

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    There are controls. No major cheating has been picked up. Especially from abroad. Why don’t you sign the no deal petition multiple times to balance your theory?
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Opinion polls. Massive march. Petition. In discussion in parliament. And you haven’t noticed a change in mood? If it easy to rig the petition, why haven’t leave, who have proven experience in manipulating the internet, managed to get their petition over 0,5m?
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Yes, neighbours working together to solve problems. Terrible.
  14. M

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    „The joint parliament will not be legally binding on the national parliaments of either country though“.
  15. M

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Er no. 5m is bigger than 0,5m.
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Funny that is only the case with this petition. Do you not think that there are people controlling it? Or people working overtime to remove multiple votes? Even allowing for some still getting through, this is the by far the biggest petition ever. The march was the biggest demonstration ever...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Really? This is news. I am in the same situation, but am on the safe side now. There probably won’t be a problem, but who can be sure?
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Virtually everyone I as was British ( from accent or flag they were carrying ). I saw one young woman with a placard „frog against Brexit“. So there were a few EU citizens.
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    In the case of being a British citizen who loses automatic rights in the EU, but is not allowed a vote, yes it does make a point.
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Brexit is not Socialist. There were loads of socialists amongst us. Obviously they prefer the present EU to the 70s Bennite version you quote and to Brexit.
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