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  1. M

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    No. But the number of EU migrants is declining and would have carried on doing so as things improve in some of the poorer countries.
  2. M

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    A bit like the ERG who were elected as Tories, but have joined together to block the deal. A party within a party.
  3. M

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    The turning point is that EU migrants are leaving and ROW migrants are arriving. I don’t think that helps in any way. The figures are not going down, so if you are leaver because of migration, I think you will be disappointed. At least with the EU it was reciprocal.
  4. M

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    The word is comprehension. You have obviously misunderstood that as well.
  5. M

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Assuming they don’t retire to their own country when they get older. Plus they have been educated before they come to the UK. A saving.
  6. M

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    No you aren’t. You avoiding answering the question.
  7. M

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    So do I. But I am not for restricting FOM with the excuse that I am protecting UK nature... whilst at the same time having a home in someone else‘s EU country.
  8. M

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    You say that the EU doesn’t keep to it’s rules. When have you pilloried the UK for not keeping to it’s rules? I explained the difficulty with the word „final“ in this case. But that my sentiment is that it should be final in the sense that it is off the agenda for the next few years whichever...
  9. M

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    What? You repeat the same dumb insults on every page. Never say anything sensible. Never a good argument. Turned your anti foreigner stance into wanting to save nature. Yeah. Right. Pity you missed out on the day out. Would have felt at home amongst the people at Tommy’s lecture.
  10. M

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Of course the EU is not perfect, but neither is the UK. You pillory one, but not the other and then claim to be neutral. We’ve been through Selmayr. We agree that it was a scam. Virtually everyone else does. But, he has a contract of employment and is counted as capable. So, I don’t know how...
  11. M

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    The problem is that we have not even got the 40 roll over deals that we were promised. Puffin Pie from the Faroes, or Chilean wine won’t make up for reducing our domestic market from 500 m to 65 m. If you count our weakened bargaining position in negotiations with China, USA and India to that...
  12. M

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    How does the EU overrule itself?
  13. M

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    The EU is not a country. It is 28 countries including us. The other 27 countries decide what now happens. They do have rules and they do keep to them in general. You quote the exceptions.
  14. M

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Exactly. We’ll end up paying whilst having no say. With a USA trade deal we will do what the USA wants and won’t have a say. Same with China.
  15. M

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    If we don’t leave, we save the country. Brexit has already cost us and all signs are that it will continue to cost us. We gain nothing by leaving. We are in a weak position to do trade deals as everyone knows we are a distressed trading partner. EU Migration has dropped, but ROW migration has...
  16. M

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Or saved it through their incompetence depending on your point of view.
  17. M

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    The Conservatives said they would get a deal within 2 years.
  18. M

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Luckily most do. Not all. A higher proportion than leavers though.
  19. M

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    We are in a terrible position. If the country were split 70/30, we would be fine. Everyone would accept that.
  20. M

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    I know what you mean. But in his case he does try to point out the facts. It is true that the leavers come out with some amazing things, which are not true and he does come across as condescending. But e.g. when a guy says he voted leave partly because 3 pinned plugs aren’t allowed in the EU...
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