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Sorry Wingy, I missed this. I don't doubt you're right mate - I suspect SISU did think the return would distract from all of the other crap they've pulled. I don't think it's entirely worked though. ;)

Then there are those who think they are sharper than those who think they are sharper than everyone else but aren't sharper than that. But they just think they are sharper than those who think they are sharper than everyone else but aren't sharper than that - really they're not that sharp at all.

Talk about Machiavellian... you should work for the council mate. ;)

I see what you're saying here, and I absolutely share your respect for the OP. However imho the question wasn't as much about how bad we're doing, as it was about why isn't anyone looking at how bad we're doing. The implication perhaps being that the council revelations are being used as a...

With regard to the Ricoh, it's clear enough that SISU tried and failed once, and then weren't invited to try again. I can entirely understand why the council, or anyone, would struggle to deal with them but that doesn't mean selling to Wasps (a franchise!) whilst pretending to rebuild trust...

Lewys, I like a conspiracy theory as much as the next man, possibly more. But for all that I'm not sure about JFK, I'm pretty certain we went to the moon. :) Didn't the Reid article in question go to print before the appeal got to court? In fairness Reid's been breaking this over the last...

No argument here, although I think I'd accept that I've taken their side more than many for a large part of this. That's probably why I feel so thoroughly pissed off about what's now happened.

I'm a bit staggered here at the levels of logic shown. This 'SISU apologist' stuff is frankly utter and complete bullshit. Being upset with what the council has done in selling to Wasps is clearly not the same as suddenly supporting everything our crap owners have done. If you seriously...

Go on then, I'll bite. Point me to a SISU apologist, it's just that I don't think I've seen one hereabouts. And the ship hasn't sailed as much as been sold to another crew from out of town. I wouldn't presume to talk for the majority, but just because you're bored of it doesn't mean that...

Generally speaking it's a journalist's job to scrutinise and bring to light to wrongdoing. There's not much money or interest in articles with headlines like, "Don't Worry, All is Well". If you're a political journalist on a local newspaper then you're likely to focus on the council, and on...

With respect OSB, we've lost any realistic chance of ever owning our own ground, or at least getting access to enough funding from it. I don't think anyone has lost focus on what a crap set of owners we've got - but one day they'll be gone. In the meantime, we still won't have our own ground...

SISU definitely went for due diligence in the abortive bid that became subject to the JR. http://www.coventrytelegraph.net/news/coventry-news/exclusive-offer-coventry-city-owners-3023213 I think they subsequently claimed that they were frustrated in the process and/or asked for more time to...

In fairness MMM, you won't get to due diligence if one side thinks that you're looking for massively beyond what you see as the true value of what they are trying to sell. Due diligence is an expensive process; if i remember correctly one of SISU's claims was that they thought they were being...

Appreciate that MMM. Let me lead you on a little more then - what if, instead of saying that time was needed to rebuild trust, the council had been honest and said, "We've got a third-party interested in the stadium based on a long leasehold for around x amount. Would you like the opportunity...

After categorically stating that time was needed to rebuild trust before talking about ownership again, wouldn't that actually have been the best course of action? Regardless of what was said in the JR about a deal, it related to a different point in time. When there was a (slim) chance of...

SISU were not given the chance to bid on even terms. Not even close. When were SISU offered the chance to bid for 100% of ACL with a 250-year lease? Otium were grudgingly offered 50% after the fact, with a deadline on the bid and no scope for negotiation, so that Higgs fulfilled the bare...

If the financial miscalculation - ACL being definitively profitable and without risk when it needed bailing out, and then being unprofitable when it needed selling to Wasps wasn't a flat out lie, then boy was it convenient for Lucas and CCC that they were told exactly the wrong thing at exactly...

If I've read it right MMM, the 'unfettered freehold' comment by Lucas was in Jan 2014: http://www.coventrytelegraph.net/news/coventry-news/coventry-city-council-leader-says-6600224 The letter stating 'long leasehold' might be acceptable was sent in November 2013, according to the Reid article...

Two things here that are factually incorrect: First, the idea that a letter written by (say) Seppala to Lucas would become Lucas's 'property' and then be either inadmissable in court or legally unpublishable. That's just not true SBK, not even slightly. Think it through - if your bank sends...

Mr SISU himself? It's good to see that you're not holding some sort of lazy prejudice here... Isn't the timeline like this: SISU say freehold or nothing in July, but then say they will consider a long-leasehold option in a letter in November? Regardless, the truth is that CCC didn't offer...