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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    How? How can vetos be rendered worthless without unanimous consent? A veto stops vetos been rendered worthless. Please explain how you come to your conclusion- with a relevant link ( Brexit Party or UKIP links don’t count ). Do you know what a proposal is? Ever turned down a proposal at JLR? Or...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    No it won’t. Just more lies. Veto is veto. You cannot take a veto away without the agreement of all parties. It’s really not difficult. Rhetoric not facts. FFS.
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    What are you on about? I said Selmayr should have resigned in the interest of transparency. He didn’t = a Union of 500m people is therefore not transparent? WTF. Now. Back to May‘s appointment as head of the civil service. Was he vetted? Did he have to apply for the job? Are there any rules for...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    The Commission has just proposed that. So of they can propose things.
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Liam Fox wanted to rubber stamp the EU Japan agreement. It’s what leavers want... apparently. Now the EU has it and we have no chance of getting a deal on the same or better terms than the EU, it has become a stick to beat the EU with. And you, @ Astute, have the cheek to say the leave side...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    No it doesn’t. Constantly? You named 2 examples since we have members - in nearly 50 years. The Lisbon Treaty did away with some vetos, but not the most sensitive. The Lisbon Treaty was signed by all governments. If the British government doesn’t want Turkey, then that is it. If the British...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    An Irish account of what Juncker said: EU should scrap national vetoes on tax, says Juncker
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Still waiting. Where is your link to prove your lie? There isn’t one. Just confirmed, yet again, my point that leavers are lying, and if anything lying at a faster rate ( as is Trump BTW ), as Brexit continues to flounder.
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Read the last sentence and not just the headline. “The proposal would need to get past the European Parliament and European Council, where it is expected to face opposition“ It is a proposal and it won’t get through without unanimous consent. The 15% minimum VAT, plus exceptions, only got...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    You mean the flawed advisory referendum based on lies, dark money, overspending and not giving a majority to any particular form of Brexit that has split the country and the government and the result of which is nothing like what was promised before the referendum? You mean that one? No, of...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Fact Check: would the UK have a veto on Turkey joining the EU?
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Show me the rule that says that. Do you have to have unanimous consent to do away with vetos?
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Leaving is changing the status quo. It is a dangerous gamble based on lies. If remain had won and it turned out all vetos could be cancelled by Frau Merkel and the fourth Reich, I would be calling them out. They didn’t and that cannot happen, so, yes, I am calling the leave lies out.
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Remain made some exaggerated predictions which have only partly come true or not come true. Leave have told whoppers. Brexit is not going at all to plan because it was built on lies. The latest example of a liar is the new Minister of Defence who claimed we had no veto on stopping Turkey joining...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Explains Liam Fox‘s failure to get the larger countries to do roll overs?
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    No. It’s the increase in bullshit as a result of Brexit. ;-)
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    I was answering someone who is obsessed and talking about liars who are obsessed with a failed project. So go to them if you want to talk about obsession. I shouldn’t mention Selmayr though.
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    The leave argument was that we want a „cut and paste“ FTA with Japan. Liam Fox is in charge of that. Japan have stated that any trade deal with the UK won’t be as good as that with the EU. If Japan makes cars in the EU or Japan, there is no difference, apart from transport costs. There will be a...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Statistics: „In the 23 months since the general election 47 ministers have resigned or been sacked from Theresa May's government. That's just about two a month.“
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Pity about the 40 trade deals the day after Brexit though... If Brexit has taken place on 29 March as promised by leavers, we would have been left with Puffin Pie and Chilean wine.. and Lichtenstein as an export market... plus another 2 or 3% market share of what we had via the EU.
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