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Too much carping on here, just because the bloke's a little coy.

I doubt you've ever been to Damascus mate, but clearly you've got an issue with people of a different colour. Let me start your next post for you, just to save you a bit of typing... "I'm not a racist but..."

Better a waste of resources now, than searching for a child's body later. Unless it's a malicious hoax or an act or gross stupidity I've no real problem with erring on the side of caution here.

Yes mate, that deal. Well that one plus the 250 year lease extension. Imagine if we'd have been offered that, publicly. How could Fisher and SISU really have stuck to the £20m,15000 seater out of town stadium bollocks, if that was on the table? I think the lie to this article was the attempt...

What date are the Wembley playoffs this season? If I book now I might even be able to get a seat on the train before Otis gets in. :)

The blunt truth about the convicted fraudster and football thug Tommy Robinson is that he's got very wealthy by doing nothing except provoking race hate. If you support him, then quite bluntly you're supporting a move towards fascism and racism, not free speech. Painting him as some kind of...

I'm not actually in favour of either, but I can't see that painting rocks and square bashing is a required skill these days, and that's what a lot of National Service was. As I recall professional soldiers didn't much care for it either, having to take time to manage or find work for a bunch of...

Again, I see nothing in law that says that the Council couldn't have put a covenant on the sale that guaranteed the right of the club to rent the ground at a set price or based on some kind of formula. Without that the Council's promise that the sale of the ground wouldn't be to the detriment...

He might well be a decent bloke, but there's nothing in the tone of his article to suggest that's he's in the slightest bit bothered about what Wasps have done. Plus the rather glaring factual error about them filling the Ricoh seems to point to a certain carelessness regarding the facts...

Which negates my point not a jot. This is brinksmanship, as OSB says, and this is Wasps and the Council getting their PR in early in case it all goes wrong.

None of which would stand up in court, or probably even get there. If you're not paying your lease, and you get kicked out, you're never going to be able to claim those reasons. Like it or not there were some points in some very technical law which merited argument for the JRs, hence them...

Always good to hear from you OSB. I am politely unconvinced though. :) Would it really have been that difficult to covenant the sale with a clause that the club must at least be offered an annual rental agreement at terms of x + RPI, perhaps dependent on division (regardless of what SISU...

I take your point but I don't think they'll want to leave it that late. I honestly believe, regardless of which side of the fence you sit on, what we're seeing here is Wasps and the council getting their PR retaliation in early. To reverse this, don't get me wrong, SISU have been nothing but a...

My thanks mate, but again, what frivolous reason? There's a contract for the rugby club to supply the facility, and the football club to pay the rent due. it's pretty straightforward and there's all sorts of protection for landlord in law and against his costs. You'll note that SISU, even...

Similarly, the council have gambled the future of the CCFC on Wasps being a roaring success and on their cheerful good nature being sufficient to guarantee the club a home in the city. Don't tell me that's a coherent plan either, because it's clearly not. There was always a better strategy...

But you're starting your argument from a fallacy. In what way does renting to SISU expose them to legal action unless Wasps breach the contract? There are no JRs in commercial law. Like other commercial leases you have cast iron terms, a short lease period and/or break clauses if you sense...

Good question. Hypothetically then... If my mate ran a business, let's say an unprofitable rugby club that owned a football stadium and had other tenants like hotels and a casino. And let's say that he was 37m or so in the hole with 5% interest or more to pay on it every year. And there was...

Why risk what? Again, what are the risks here to Wasps with a new deal? If the contract is solid, CCFC pay rent and Wasps provide the stadium, then what risk is there?

No, it's quite clearly a threat. Whether it's a legitimate one or not is a matter of opinion.

I'm pretty certain there's no legal obligation on Wasps to offer CCFC a deal (though funnily enough that is one of the conditions that the Council could have insisted on when selling to Wasps, had they genuinely cared about the future of the club). However the presence or absence of a deal...