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  1. duffer

    Gathering for Tommy / Discontent

    I think they'll be spending some time in pokey before they even need to worry about the bills. Much as I hate them mate, and I really do, what I'd really like to see is some attempt at rehabilitation. I think we both liked that Imam who said he'd invite them inside the mosque for tea and...
  2. duffer

    Gathering for Tommy / Discontent

    Can't see why not. There's an element of compensation in the criminal court for damages, and I think there would also be a path through the civil courts (usually to a lower standard of proof, I think). This could get expensive for a few people...
  3. duffer

    Gathering for Tommy / Discontent

    I don't much care for the chap they originally chose as a solicitor, given the things he's said about other stuff. For whatever reason, thankfully, he's not involved any more, but you do understand it's a solicitor's responsibility to advocate for his client, don't you? I think the road you're...
  4. duffer

    Gathering for Tommy / Discontent

    Who says that's not going to happen? Why does the fact that they or their solicitor is Muslim matter?
  5. duffer

    Gathering for Tommy / Discontent

    Erm, I'm not sure either of things are actually true of Pakistan, but either way it's not how English law works. The offenders will end up in court, and the court will decide the sentence. Like I say, either you believe in the law, or you don't.
  6. duffer

    Gathering for Tommy / Discontent

    Erm, I think the offenders here were British citizens. I'm sure you didn't mean to imply anything else, but it pays to be clear in these situations, as we've seen. As for retribution, you either believe in the law or you don't. It really is that simple and you need to decide which side you...
  7. duffer

    Gathering for Tommy / Discontent

    I agree, but you have to accept that the overwhelming threat here is from the far right against Muslims, immigrants, and people of colour. I'm not quite as worried about a gang of pissed up Muslims burning down a library or looting a Greggs. Attacking a Greggs, for God's sake. We'll see this...
  8. duffer

    Gathering for Tommy / Discontent

    It's a very tricky one, legally. "Reasonable force" to defend yourself, others, and your property, is the limit. No weapons of any kind, or even things that could be used as a weapon, no instigation, no retaliation; it's a very fine line. Anyhow, the last thing we need, imho, is to add fuel to...
  9. duffer

    Gathering for Tommy / Discontent

    In the meantime, the utter brass bollocks of Nigel Farage demanding the recall of Parliament. The useless fucker spends more time as groom of the stool to Trump, than he does in the HoC.
  10. duffer

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    I think Robinson's case is cut and dried, that's why he's on the run. The offence is defined as incitement to hatred, based on religion (Public Order Act, some section or another). It would be very hard for him to pretend he's not been doing it, unless he's going to claim that someone else...
  11. duffer

    Gathering for Tommy / Discontent

    Also, I think there needs to be a new offence along the lines of "Bringing tubby, white, bald blokes into disrepute". Minimum five years for that one. No parole.
  12. duffer

    Gathering for Tommy / Discontent

    We don't need the army, and we don't need people taking the law into their own hands. The worst thing that could happen now would be mobs of any colour or creed looking to take revenge. We do need the police to crack on and start arresting people, sharpish. Not just the people who were there...
  13. duffer

    Gathering for Tommy / Discontent

    You can take your phone and still reply can't you? Bloody part-timers. 😄
  14. duffer

    Gathering for Tommy / Discontent

    Why don't they just stay in France? A lot of them do. France handles more asylum seekers than us (most European countries do, from memory). For the rest, a few good reasons here...
  15. duffer

    Gathering for Tommy / Discontent

    C'mon fella. Do you believe that the people coming over on small boats could just buy a plane ticket and arrive that way instead? Straight question, give it a straight answer.
  16. duffer

    Gathering for Tommy / Discontent

    So you admit the buy a plane ticket thing was bullshit then?
  17. duffer

    Gathering for Tommy / Discontent

    Do you seriously think people would take all of the risk and expense of travelling across Europe and then jumping on an overloaded small inflatable to cross the busiest shipping lane in the world if they could just hop on a plane and do it? C'mon mate, try harder.
  18. duffer

    Gathering for Tommy / Discontent

    Nice to have a bit of debate on it without the heat. For a Tory, you're actually quite a decent bloke... Sometimes. 😁 I'm thinking, and this is just a starter for ten, that you way to stop 'illegal' immigration, is to give people genuine access to legitimate channels. You've got to use the...
  19. duffer

    Gathering for Tommy / Discontent

    I see what you did there. Naughty. 😁
  20. duffer

    Gathering for Tommy / Discontent

    Ha. Mate, in fairness at least half of them won't have read a book since they were obliged to at school. The others will need to move their lips whilst reading. Torching a library won't bother them one bit. The people who do this aren't protesting, they're having fun.
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