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yes kg82 and it does. I would rather we survive in the division because we are good enough not because some other team broke pretty arbitrary rules set up by people who have no damn idea what makes a fit and proper person as an owner or what transparency means.

Clearly Sunderland have by anyones standards invested in the playing squad, ok they lost Bent & Gyan but overall they spent significantly They have taken 21 points out of the last 81. They have won 3 home games this calendar year. CCFC have taken 27 points out of 87 under AT won just 5...

look at it this way ..... Pompey beat us get 10 point deduction and they are ahead of us on goal difference.... apparently they are the ones in a mess?

I find it a little frustrating that we support the manager simply because we know there is unlikely to be a change. But that is the position I find myself in. Truth is I think that AT is a nice guy but I dont rate his managerial skills from what i have seen to date. Even given the excuses...

thought we still needed an experienced player? With Bruce gone I would have thought all deals are off. More pointless stories in the press and rumours - does anyone really see this happening ? :facepalm:

Yes jan that is the conclusion I have come to also. Otherwise the risk is all in one very porous basket !

Agree with all that Godiva and would add The first reason that anyone puts money into a football club as a loan is because it is far easier to get their money out or get a return (interest) than by shares. SISU funds would be classed as football debt I believe and until the HMRC overturn...

It isnt easy to put an explanation out that is easy to follow ICHAN sorry - there is so little facts to actually go on. Guess what I am saying is that there are still various options available to SISU et al. It isnt a choice between carry on as we are or administration then new owners as some...

Sorry but if you have something to say and you are convinced it is right and reliable then say it. If not say nothing, no crytic clues, no smug "i know something you do not", no throw it out there enough times it is bound to stick once. If you believe it is true have the courage of your...

only thing i would comment Godiva is that they(KD, LB,OI etc) could all be investors in the SISU funds. We simply dont know. Usually it is the shares that give control of a company but loans of £30m to CCFC certainly give substantial influence if not some element of control. That is why the...

Didnt KD say that Otium was actually owned by SBS&L ? Assuming this is correct..... SISU dont own anything their investment funds that they manage do. to transfer the debt to otium creates a debt from Otium to SBS&L. Basic accounts every debit has a credit both are equal. CCFC goes bust...

Anything is possible wingy. However the profit on the Fox & Dann sales is shown in the CCFC accounts and reduced the losses that year. Those accounts dont show any evidence of reducing the loans from the SISU funds. Plus if any assets are used to secure debts then that security in theory should...

and yet with all that "quality" and "experience" they are all in the bottom six...... and some with very great financial problems to confront. Go figure huh

like many of the Board I have never been sure exactly what Mr Clarkes role at CCFC is. Would be interesting to see what he thinks it is and the achievements so far. Certainly as a skilled PR person you would expect input into the club PR and it doesnt seem the CCFC PR is all it should be...

adds industrial ear protectors to williestanley xmas wish list ! :D

going back to the original post I suppose this means we are a) going into administration again b) been bought out c) sacked the manager d) past caring :facepalm::facepalm::facepalm::facepalm::facepalm::facepalm: so back to the interesting stuff I didnt know you could get lego calendars ...

funny how things lack clarity over time ..... especially in the CT GH offered £1 for the shares and a promise to SISU to pay them some more if the team became successful in promotion to the premiership the £30m was to be spent paying debts £10m player fund £10m and £10m on purchasing half...

It is also sad that we are looking for the troubles at other clubs to save us - that just is not right!

given that this would be the second time and in a short space of time would the points deduction be more ? Wouldnt wish it on the Pompey fans and i doubt it would save us. The FA fit and proper is a complete waste of time, a sham and pointless

Then we have 11,000 that are absolute diamonds Snoz after what we have achieved in the last 10years+ ! :D