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  1. oldskyblue58

    Did Thorn want to sell Turner?

    Lets just be clear how this works.... SISU do not buy or sell any players ...... what they say is we need this much to get the club through the next few weeks/month and there is this much available to pay wages or bring in players. They set a budget to work to. They will have the final say...
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    Caption Competition Round 8

    so its true what they say size does matter !
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    Turner sell on clause?

    I used to get similar on the BBC 606 site NLHWC. Managed to convince a few that i might have a point in the end but there was a large section that couldnt see anything in him. This is not a dig at AT or anyone else but it seems it is ok to some for a manager to learn on the job make mistakes but...
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    Did Thorn want to sell Turner?

    dont think you can read much into AT not commenting after the League cup final - would rather he concentrated on our players. I also think he was right we had too many central defenders. However I think who ever made the decision to ship Turner out got it wrong. Maybe he was the one they...
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    Big ben

    Turner always had the ability - he lacked, partly due to age, consistency and was injury prone. It would seem he has addressed both of those issues. Whoever made the decision to ship him out and retain Wood & McPake made a mistake in my opinion. The team lacks leaders on the pitch and we...
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    Survival? Sorry... but am I missing something

    There have been moments of excitement this season but overall I have been distinctly under whelmed by events on the pitch. To me there has been a distinct lack of passion, urgency and desire on the pitch. Not saying that most players dont work hard but the words in the interviews somehow dont...
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    Long term contact for Thorn

    it seems to me that the choices are a) dont think AT is good enough - and has to go (when we can get a decent repacement) or b) AT has potential and wonder how he would be with some funds to play with and so provide some (but it wont be much) or c) AT is all we can afford and we have to...
  8. oldskyblue58

    Sheff's best position

    Yes he is and from what I saw on Saturday is well out of form. Shouldnt be anywhere near the first team at the moment. But the U18's in total were second best against Leicester losing 4 nil
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    solutions

    Ok questions What made CCFC pre SISU not a business ? What is it that makes any club run as a business not good ? what actual control did the pre SISU shareholders actually have? Was the club run by very small group who had no responsibility to fans or city pre SISU? How did having...
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    solutions

    Some of that i agree with some i just cant I agree they should have been more aware of what they were getting in to. That doesnt mean they should have put more money in than they have so far - better control of it should have been the case. The money from Juke (a) hasnt all been paid in...
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    Cwr

    looks like i saved you from satan NLHWC ..... saving you from CCFC was clearly way beyond mine or anyone elses power ,.... sorry:whistle:
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    A simply poll question re: Andy Thorn

    Was very careful not to make wild claims based on this poll NLHWC. Many people didnt vote including me. However polls conducted on other CCFC fan sites were showing 90% approval back in October (i think) and as a snap shot this poll indicates that approval rating has greatly reduced since then...
  13. oldskyblue58

    Losses

    if they get promoted they will have pushed the problem off for a year or two. That is not the right call. If they get promoted their wage bill will increase - yes income will but to breakeven now income has to increase by 17m and they are already a well supported team. That wont get rid of £100m...
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    So how well SHOULD Thorn be doing?

    errr if it is worth 600 you sell it on quick and you have 600 to try again ? assuming you havent got to take your wages overheads and other costs out of the profit. Will be interested to see how these so called better players on higher wages negotiate their next deal under the FFP rules - got...
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    So how well SHOULD Thorn be doing?

    If CCFC stay up this year you could argue the following 1) AT was a good enough manager to keep us up 2) the squad was good enough to stay up 3) we should make more use of our youngsters 4) you dont have to spend millions over the top in wages and signings to stay in the division 5) you dont...
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    A simply poll question re: Andy Thorn

    It seems to me that the support for AT has weakened considerably - end of the day the manager is judged on the results he achieves. Although very valid the reasons/excuses he has are not the bottom line for many fans. Results are.
  17. oldskyblue58

    Time to Get Behind the Team

    Yes we should get behind the team. Also the team needs to give back to the fans after last Saturday. Not confident at all about tomorrow - Barnsley are having a reasonable season and will not be easy to beat. We should not go into this thinking 3 points are guaranteed
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    So how well SHOULD Thorn be doing?

    Agree with some of that but The current situation is not because of changing managers too often thats a contributory factor though. I think you can only give a manager 5 or 6 years if he comes to you at the start with the right detailed knowledge and experience. I wouldnt say that AT had...
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    Losses

    http://www.westhamtillidie.com/2012/02/20/in-conversation-with-david-sullivan-part-6/ this makes interesting reading BSB Reckon they could be deep in the mire if they do not get promoted
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    Take_Over ??

    so the crowd income streams stop the 21st April - but overheads and wages continue may, june, july. Clingan Eastwood and Crainie out of contract 30/06 so still need 2 months pay the rest as normal. Transfers unlikely until july. Cant guarantee players sold or money up front. So where exactly is...
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