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Absolutely spot on - we have owners who appear hell bent on destroying the club. In the minds of long suffering city fans who don't go any more this is what the problem is and it is unique to our club - whether this is true or not isn't the issue, but it is why they don't go any more.

Not any more. Big Tony will break the cycle of woe.

Have some faith ....14 - 15k followed by 18 - 19K if we really are still there by the end of the season. Trust me. I remember when we were good.

Only kidding you ! I don't like SISU any more than anyone else, but this sounds like its going to be their fault simply because they chose to take action.

Sadly, I've never heard of most of these players !:pointlaugh:

What are you getting at , if I can see it - it's bleeding obvious .:D

...if we are top of the league at xmas we'll get more than 12-13K, especially if we've been sniffing around there from the start. Now that would be bloody good wouldn't it ?

It is worded in such a way as to blame SISU. "No doubt about it"....as a previous manager used to say in his post match speech. In other words, the Council may have messed up big time, but it won't matter unless those SISU people pursue it, and they will, so it's their fault.

We don't have to be third - anywhere in the top 6 with 2 home games to go I would expect crowds pushing towards 20k . I don't recall ever saying we will get 25k, because I don't believe that in this division we could get that many. That was someone else on another thread. Was the time we...

Was it a sustained challenge for the play offs, or was it one of those moments where we just begin to believe. I can't remember a concerted challenge.

Would you have been happier with 15,000 at that game ?

.....that's hilarious.

...and how big do you assume supporters think our club is ? From the reaction on here I'd say it's the opposite. As far as dismissing the Leeds match as clearly not the norm please enlighten me as to why you think there were 28,000 there .

...they are both in the Premier League and don't have owners like us. It's not rocket science.

I'm actually with you on the attendances, Jack. It seems to me that what I am reading here is that some people want to rule out the bigger crowds because other big teams bring lots of supporters, so it doesn't count- ie Leeds. There may have been 28,000, but it doesn't really count because...

What the hell is a sycophant? Is it some kind of elephant with mental health issues ?

The test is nothing to do with price, as it is not unreasonable, but to overcome the overwhelming sentiment of doom and gloom brought about by endless years of mismanagement.

You're going to take a little bit of stick for being over optimistic here but for those who say this is wide of the mark it would be completely uncharted territory to be flirting with the play offs, would it not ? I don't think 20,000 would be unreasonably, given the success starvation period...

So what point are you trying to make other than other people are wrong ?