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Trouble is we dont actually have the report itself that was presented to the council do we ........ we dont actually know the context of what was said only a well placed news bite in the CT. “The CCFC rent is currently criticial to ACL's viability." it could have gone on to say later that if...

hear what you are saying on that Grendel ......... but owning my own business for example who do you think deals with a lot of its sales and marketing ? Not saying you are wrong, i think it is a valid point, but things are not always so clear cut and defined as we all know. Figures are no good...

It was that draw against Chelsea and the 2 defeats in the last 12 that did for him ........:facepalm: Complete madness

errr read it again amateur "both CCFC and ACL have accumulated losses brought forward generated by actual revenue losses and capital allowances that mean neither will be paying corporation tax for the foreseeable future." no back pedalling at all :facepalm: also tax on £36K is £7200 tops...

try sticking to things you actually know about ............. both CCFC and ACL have accumulated losses brought forward generated by actual revenue losses and capital allowances that mean neither will be paying corporation tax for the foreseeable future. Aside from which the tax on £36k is...

Can we get something straight ......... Mr Robinson did not write off his money in some grand philanthropic gesture to save the club he had no choice in it. The club was about to crash with massive debts and no assets - he would have lost the lot. Had SISU not struck the deal they did then he...

ACL 2011 accounts Turnover 6,663,974 overhead costs including depreciation 5,147,739 (depreciation 1,545,158) interest paid 1,048,346 Profit 471,389 (if you ignore depreciation then that becomes 2,016,547 profit) Take out 1.3m for ccfc rent and an estimate of the share of the profits from...

only listen to the station for the match reports if not at the match........ really cant stand listening to Linnell witter cluelessly on, with his own self importance ....... even switch off at half time.

Bottom line is it isnt good for either ACL or CCFC for the club to leave the Ricoh. Both should be better off together. ACL are saying they want the club there but their actions tell us that it is not any cost, they can survive without. They want a reasonable rent for a very good stadium...

I think what is being seen at the Ricoh is a shift in how ACL and the arena operate and markets itself. Originally it was set up so that the club had a stadium and there were seperate events etc for ACL to run. It became clear very quickly that the football club was in long term financial...

Think you will be a lot older before that happens SBT ........ the likelihood of the club owning the ground has just been pushed well in to the future ...... the club will get match day profits but thats about it.......... thats all a consquence of what has gone on off the pitch since april last...

No one wanted to give the club a loan because of its credit history SBT ........ pretty sure they would have tried...... but the shares and future profits would have had little value to a bank or similar for security purposes...... the club ran out of options.... next option was to go bust

The charity, I believe paid CCFC direct £6.5m for the shares that the club had in ACL in 2003 - before the Ricoh opened/built. Those shares had a nominal value of £1.75m and equal to 50% of ACL. In the recent discussions I believe the Charity were looking for the £6.5m back as the purchase price...

I think they have shown a lot of goodwill Paxman to be honest ....... where i do not see much goodwill is coming from the club. Time for them to take part properly compromise and do a reasonable deal for all

CCFC should get 100% of the match day costs associated with that income too in that case ..... perhaps a percentage of the turnover removes the need for greater calculations ?

Think we have to recognise the balance of power in these negotiations has shifted. Following yesterday ACL is in a stronger position and it may well be that they say their current offer is as far as they will go. There might be a few discussions on the periferary but I doubt they actually need...

Personally I do not think the £400k is far away from the right figure. On top of that they are being offered half the profits from concourse catering that Mr Mutton suggested was worth £100k. They wont even of had to pay for the rights to it Net effect is £300k Of course then there is...

nothing much they can say really is there. So the statement is about right Their talking now needs to be done in settling the rent at a realistic level for both parties. Not £1.2m but also not £170k for everything either. The sooner the better because the longer it is left the debt of original...

I think it is difficult to tell which way they will jump - right now as another poster put I would guess they are looking at the legals of what has gone on to see if they can get it set aside ..... I dont think that will work - A new lower set rent and a scheduled debt will actually make the...

Lets just say backed them into a tight corner ............. i doubt SISU will take this laying down I think what ACL and its stakeholders have done is to protect their interests, which is entirely right and proper. I think SISU have tried to do the same. In terms of shafting then I think...