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  1. oldskyblue58

    The minutes from the Supporters Consultative Group meeting on December 4th

    As far as the SB Trust goes I would suggest people actually read the statements that were made http://www.skybluetrust.co.uk/index.php/component/content/article/289-trust-press-release-01082013...
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    The next step for the Ricoh

    ..... personally I just want the club back at the Ricoh I do think that the rent dispute have made ACL more commercial in their dealings though
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    The next step for the Ricoh

    has been explained before tom but ... the new loan saves something like 800k in cash flow and halves the interest to around 500k Overheads are fixed so they wont grow to any significant degree because turnover does there are fewer senior managers paid by ACL therefore wage costs like for...
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    Questions from the SBT

    Think it was important from the Trust point of view that each of the parties involved got the questions at the same time and in the same way Nick. Demonstrates an even handed approach
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    Andy Turner article

    Wingy .......There is a charge on the assets/shares of Otium and SBS&L taken out in favour of ARVO. The charges on CCFC H have been filed as satisfied - have to be so they can wind CCFC H up ARVO of course earn interest on the loans they have made to Otium at a rate that has not been declared...
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    Andy Turner article

    If it is a temporary deal I think all parties would put the 10 year deal to one side (including the FL - using their discretion as ever). In which case discussions would be on the basis of a shorter deal with perhaps annual lease break clauses. Not sure length of deal is the problem
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    The next step for the Ricoh

    on paper probably fp ............ however you have to wonder about the practicalities of doing it. The E-on, Yorkshire, Atrium etc etc all become share spaces then that is going to be messy in terms of efficiency of running. The old lease meant the whole site became CCFC's for a set period. Yes...
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    The next step for the Ricoh

    Then I think you fail to understand what is actually going on at the Ricoh. They are not set up on the basis of requiring lots of major concerts/events to make it work. They dont set out to host major events every week. Turnover rather than falling away because CCFC are not there has increased...
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    Tim says sorry

    Which ever party you choose to believe put us in to adminstration the 200k doesnt exist other than in TF statements. ACL after following the process to recover their debt petitioned for £1.4m ARVO succeeded in their application to place CCFC Ltd in administration based on a claim of 10.25m...
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    "Name Your Price" says Ann Lucas

    As we discussed it isnt as straight forward as it seems Robo. Plus above all it has to attain a value that is tempting to CCC in order to move it forward. I think ACL may well have regular valuations done for their audit but I am not sure there is any obligation for CCC to value their freehold...
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    "Name Your Price" says Ann Lucas

    never actually said "name your price" though did she. Says she will talk, but the offers have to be sensible and nothing ruled in or out, which would include CCC retaining ownership. The headline makes it seem it is all up for sale and that is not what was said. There is enough confusion, PR...
  12. oldskyblue58

    The alleged £320,000 matchday costs

    Got a feeling the actual amount of match day cost has very little to do with whether they come back or not. Could be nil and i think they would still turn it down imo
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    The alleged £320,000 matchday costs

    During last season the club was paying around £10k in match day expenses (whether this includes VAT or not I dont know). The club was paying the stewards and groundsman wages The deal put by ACL to the FL will i think have included a higher figure of 320k (13,913 per match) because ACL would be...
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    The next step for the Ricoh

    Think there are plans to use other areas for camping etc so the whole site will be taken up Grendel Plus it isnt just those 4 days that the site is unavailable ....... it will have set up and take down time either side of it Indication of the move away from CCFC being key to ACL future...
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    loanees not available

    Disappointing that Maguire and Dagnall wont be available against Hartlepool http://www.ccfc.co.uk/news/article/dagnall-maguire-ineligible-1215326.aspx
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    The next step for the Ricoh

    http://www.coventrytelegraph.net/news/coventry-news/uks-biggest-computer-gaming-festival-6369892 You know what worries me about this article...... it isnt how will ACL survive without CCFC (I tend to believe they can)......... it is that usually at Easter there is one home match for CCFC...
  17. oldskyblue58

    Sisu boss Joy Seppala rejects council offer to play at Ricoh Arena rent-free

    Think you misunderstand Godiva if either or both sides colluded in that it makes me uneasy......... i wouldnt view either side in a positive light ........ the Capitalism justification does not excuse it in my mind............ Think the fans deserve better than what is going on...
  18. oldskyblue58

    Sisu boss Joy Seppala rejects council offer to play at Ricoh Arena rent-free

    I am suggesting nothing of the sort ...... i am saying that if independent he is not always going to be in line with the rest of the Board on all issues. As such it further confuses things. Just because you me labovitch etc say anyhthing doesnt mean it is right 100% of the time....... I like to...
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    Sisu boss Joy Seppala rejects council offer to play at Ricoh Arena rent-free

    got to be honest the thought of allegedly intentionally distressing two companies so that one can not pay its bank liabilities makes me slightly uneasy..... if it happened at all .... and we dont know for sure
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    Sisu boss Joy Seppala rejects council offer to play at Ricoh Arena rent-free

    They agreed a head of terms ............ which is not a binding contract no matter whose note paper it is on I believe there was a similar head of terms agreed in January wasnt there? if Mr Labovitch is an independent director does that mean his views are his own not necessarily those of the...
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