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  1. oldskyblue58

    CCFC Holdings - voluntary liquidation problem?

    only if you are dyslexic magic :laugh:
  2. oldskyblue58

    CCFC Holdings - voluntary liquidation problem?

    would depend on the reasons for suspension etc and whether the process is restarted but it could. I wouldn't bet on it however
  3. oldskyblue58

    CCFC Holdings - voluntary liquidation problem?

    as I understand it that had to be paid up before the AHCT would even talk to Otium about the academy coming back
  4. oldskyblue58

    CCFC Holdings - voluntary liquidation problem?

    It means that as it stands the process for striking off CCFC H (the original CCFC company) has been suspended/stopped for the time being KoK - but no real idea why How does it relate to that Simon? The Charity were suing SISU not CCFC H so would I assume not be affected by CCFCH being struck...
  5. oldskyblue58

    CCFC Holdings - voluntary liquidation problem?

    Just an update According to the Company House website the Registrar has received an objection to the liquidation and has suspended the process. No other details. Could be that HMRC are objecting to the liquidation ( not unusual) but that is just a guess on my part. It was said that all...
  6. oldskyblue58

    How long, accountability ?

    errr yes and I answered. The questions on my part were more rhetorical because there is not enough detail. There is no registered charge relating to Ranson and Ryton. Ryton is charged to ARVO. Ranson left March 2011 before the 2012 SBS&L accounts started. Prozone was sold June 2011 (so unlikely...
  7. oldskyblue58

    How long, accountability ?

    Is there a loan on Ryton ? That property is charged to ARVO to secure their loans and has been for some time so I do not think so. Is the interest cost on season tickets bourne by the company or the individual? in any case the total deferred income was 1.2m and a big chunk of that would be the...
  8. oldskyblue58

    How long, accountability ?

    of course the other question is what rate of interest is being paid on ARVO loans ? Actually physically paid out in interest in 2012 SBS&L accounts was £980,737 (was that all to ARVO ?) it looks like it was, with a further £218,893 accrued interest owed to ARVO. Is that the best part of £1.2m...
  9. oldskyblue58

    How long, accountability ?

    Just to try clear a couple of things The only management charges that are obvious from the accounts are the ones made by CCFC H to CCFC Ltd. In the last set of accounts published for CCFC H to 31/05/2011 the charge made was 2,686,842. The effect of this on the individual companies is as...
  10. oldskyblue58

    How long, accountability ?

    No evidence for or against In a normal situation I agree Grendel but when the club is minutes from going bust? SISU could have done it, dressed it up as survival of CCFC, made future promises (different to the ones they did), explained the impact etc other teams have done it (fans might not...
  11. oldskyblue58

    How long, accountability ?

    seem to have taken it on board a little better recently though haven't they?
  12. oldskyblue58

    How long, accountability ?

    Trouble with that Torch is that with the assets and liabilities relating to the Ricoh project excluded the debt of CCFC Group in 2005 was £28m and growing ....... just how long do you think it would be before they had to sell HR or go bust. I agree Richardson and co got us to that situation...
  13. oldskyblue58

    How long, accountability ?

    Whilst not in any way taking away the damage done by previous regimes, the on going legacy of that should only have been the ramifications of the lease & licence at the Ricoh. Even then the club had a greater share of the incomes at the Ricoh in 2008 than it did when the keys were thrown back in...
  14. oldskyblue58

    Cwr this morning

    Not sure we should read anything in to the changes that means CCFC can come back sooner. ACL can still only offer a rent deal Martin Reeves going makes sense, as CEO of the council he has other things he must concentrate on, education, the budget cuts, child care etc. The guy replacing him...
  15. oldskyblue58

    Cwr this morning

    Nick Carter retired as a director of ACL 15th November 2013. I thought both sides wanted to delay the hearing? Original reports said the Council Barrister had pushed for the hearing to be fast tracked but both sides then accepted later. Isn't it set for mid June ? I can see why the...
  16. oldskyblue58

    ACL out protest

    lot of people keep saying put pressure on ACL/CCC, and I am not saying there shouldn't be, but to do what specifically. Unless there is a clear achievable objective then it is just a group of people standing outside the council house or Ricoh saying bring out team home (just like fans in the...
  17. oldskyblue58

    ACL out protest

    That would be why I put "on both sides" then wouldn't it Never said I liked it on either side
  18. oldskyblue58

    ACL out protest

    Isn't the reality that the business connections of CCFC to the Ricoh have all but been severed. It would seem to me that the only connection is the big sign on the side of the stadium. The two companies that actually had a contract to play there are now empty shells and about to be struck off...
  19. oldskyblue58

    Discussion about Petition

    Hardly Grendel (but not on here no)............. Labovitch was on CWR this morning just after 8 announcing the fact
  20. oldskyblue58

    You are SISU what would you do?

    I think you have to separate what CCFC might do from what SISU might do. The two do not have the same aims and objectives. Just my opinion but CCFC is a tool to be used for the SISU objectives. Keep in mind that SISU's (Seppala's) objective is a return for the investors, that doesn't mean a...
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