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This. Either they don't have much money or the place is being chronically mismanaged. The company I do a lot of sub-contract work for are a) not renewing their croporate box at CCFC next season, mainly because of the appalling service they get from ACL employees on matchday and b) have stopped...

The rent alone accounted for 1/6 of turnover, which in the year to May 2012 was £7,782,519. That doesn't include other direct income (match fees, car parking etc.), and also the indirect income it gets from having CCFC there. Put it this way, my company uses the Ricoh to hold training and...

No, I have said quite clearly that it was something I was told. Absolute proof? What, like a secret leaked document? This isn't fucking Narnia you clown. I enjoy debating with MMM, he tends not to get hysterical and could understand that what I was saying was anecdotal (you understand what...

Beyond doubt? Nothing is beyond doubt in business, to suggest otherwise is a nonsense. There are countless examples of companies that were given the green light following an external audit only to bite the dust in the months that followed. There are no 'facts' or 'guarantees', and any audit...

Fact in capital latters, or a more cautious lowercase fact? Mmmm. What exactly is it you want? I will not give names, why would I? All I know is that Ricoh UK discussed the matter at board level and that the consensus was that the agreement would be either have to be renegotiated or torn up...

What? I'm talking about the deal with Ricoh being worthless in the sense that it was all done on the back of there being a football club in place. Take the football club away and you take away the reason for there being a deal in the first instance. What you have left if a stadium used twice...

Why would you compare one football match with one concert? It is the overall brand awareness that you get from sponsoring a football stadium. The collective exposure you get across all media platforms across an entire season from having your name bolted to a football stadium is worth a huge...

Not it doesn't. It has a stand with 2950 seats and that is it. The temporary stand holding 1000 has been taken down. All you have then is standing places around the side of the pitch.

Of course, but that surely leads to the inevitable conclusion that Yorkshire Bank had serious doubts about the ability of ACL to meet its mortgage payments without that rental income and/or a football club in place. Coventry City FC is after all the Ricoh Arena's raison d'etre.

No, I made the point that the primary reason behind the Ricoh deal was the exposure it would get from the football club, and remember the exhibition hall at the time was subject to a completely separate naming rights deal with Jaguar. The LG is a major venue which has two or three big events...

I'll concede that it is conjecture, and nobody can know for sure how ACL will cope with the loss of the football club. It's a huge gamble on their part also, let's not pretend it isn't. What we know for certain is that a short time ago there were serious concerns about the viability of ACL and...

Absolute tosh. Is isn't about "how many supporters that come through the turnstiles have personally bought a Ricoh product", what makes you think that has got anything to do with the reasoning behind a deal like this? That is utterly absurd. You clearly have zero understanding about...

I stopped reading at the bit about "300 or so away fans" to his right. Not sure I am all that interested by the insights of a blind man.

Uh? They were thrown out were they not?

The people in the boxes you refer to were absolutely wasted after being at Cheltenham races all day. No excuse, and they should have stayed away because they went way over the top but I am sure they are regretting going to the game now.

Not true. Has nothing to do with prestige, and everything to do with logistics and timing. Open air concerts are no good in Britain in the winter - so you have a very limited window of opportunity with summer gigs. Many big international stars tend to tour Europe in the winter so they will...

The capacity relates to the number of seats in the one stand. Don't a lot of people stand around the pitch for the Rugby? Not sure that would be tolerated at football. Wouldn't get a safety licence anyway.

Jan, seriously RICOH have every intention of pulling out. Almost all the exposure they get is via the football club. Target market has nothing to do with it; it is simply about name/brand awareness, and for that it is the exposure they get via the football club that is the most important...

I know you're kidding anyway, but you are aware the Butts has a capacity of 2950? Interestingly, the Butts Park wiki entry has recently been altered to read: "The stadium was built in 2004 and currently has one stand. The East Stand has a capacity of 3000 and includes a number of conference...

My understanding is that there are contractual clauses that allow for an exit. ACL wouldn't stop them anyway, no point getting into a legal fight they would almost certainly lose.