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If true (and I am sceptical as nothing official mentioned bout this) you can bet McPake would have had something to do wit this. Would explain why we've gone for Barton also. Maybe Thorn wants rid and the delay is why nothing happened with Jennings.

And i thiought i was the only one! Where bouts in Manchester you live? There's a few away games nearby next year. I've gotta go via Wigan tomorrow though to pick up the old man.

I'm going, only live in Manchester so not too far for me. Definately pay on gate, rang the ground today and they confirmed.

Gutted, was going to Vale and Accrington as only two games I could make. Thought I'd get to see almost everyone play wit them two fixtures as well.

Glad were not getting Jones. Always thought he looked like a slow and clumsy lump. Undecided bout Paynter, looks strong and may be a decent foil for Cody. May struggle to get back in the goals. Wish we could just once use some if the Keigh money and buy someone from lower leagues that is already...

It quotes Thorn as saying “There are probably one or two from Saturday who will start in the first team on the opening day of the season * everyone else was having a trial, kids or playing their first game of the pre-season and trying to impress." I don't think he is excusing anyone there. He...

Im sure i read that he said the games in Scotland were about fitness and he was now looking for them to take shape but the style of play into practice. I think the result don't really matter if you at least are playing like a team and creating chances but by the sound of that awful commentary...

Don't get me wrong mate, you do make some valid points but there are arguments for both sides. I do think that you struggle to see both sides of the argument.

Dont make it sound like a chore old bean, you moaning and bein able to say 'told you so' is what you get up for.

I've watched a bit of A league highlights on sky sports and never thought too much of him at the time but I wouldn't claim to be an expert. Not the most mobile of players but good in the air 'Clive Platt???' . Looking at his YouTube highlights he looks pretty decent, I wouldn't be disappointed...

Fair enough. But I will say the Greece league probably has less teams so 46 over two years may not be too bad given injuries/bans/squad rotation. All I'd say is I will reserve judgement until they have had a run of games in this country. AT has done ok in the past wit transfers so I'm happy to...

Wrong, read what it says again. He wasn't in Greece for 5 years and was in the first team for the two years he spent in Greece. Maybe you've just put your point across wrong.

Yeah, Hussey did come on but didn't Clarke start also?

Think that one is highly unlikely, sure he was linked wit a few champ teams.

Your right, I was only dicking about. Nothing has really fallen into place for some time but I'm hoping and willing to give some a chance to see if they can turn it round.

No, your right. It is ALL Andy Thorns fault. SISU have been carrying that waster for 18 months now!!!

Were very nice to outsiders, just struggle to be civil with each other.

His agent could be doing talking behind the scenes. But say for example a championship team is currently negotiating a contract with his agent, they don't want/need to take him on trial, surely they would be asking for him to pull out of any friendlies so not to scupper the deal.

Sure McDonald rattled the woodwork quite a bit last season so it shows he was getting on the end of chances. Maybe with a good pre season and less quality innthe defence he is facing we will see his scoring ability.

I feel a bit dubious bout any deal now. And to be honest think the first site to break the story was BBC so it may have been his agent leaking the info to try and get a better deal/other clubs interested. Hope this comes off, feel we need this type of player for next season.