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Don't know if I'm following things properly but seemed to be suggestions yesterday that the JR verdict is not that important and it's what is said in court that will really matter. Simon Gilbert posted that "I'd be very wary about accepting everything said in court as fact. Evidence is always...

Consensus? This is skybluestalk! Seems like one view is everything in court will be factual and that’s what will be important, not the judgement. Other view seems to be the judgement is what matters and other info in court will be PR. So take your choice from the following! CCFC website says...

As has been posted many times before, kcic events in London are never about numbers. They're just opportunities to highlight our plight, remind the powers that be we're not giving up and on Friday another plug for the ePetition. Only time there's been even a few dozen in London was when the...

This is a massive week for sisu but don't think I can face sitting through another day of spin and tit for tat in court. Are you going Don?

sisu: it's Game On! (kcic news and views roundup 8.6.14) Getting ready to spread the kcic message at the Football League! (Friday 6 June 2014) *just to remind ourselves we're football fans - League One fixtures will be out 18 June* Judicial Review - it's a massive week for sisu As...

Not sure how it'll work out because a few regulars can't make it and as posted before, some previous stalwarts towards/at the end of last season decided they've had enough of ccfc and have given up on all things sky blue, so some new faces would be v welcome!

Not at all! some posters have a very fixed view but for me one of the positives of this forum is you can argue points through so as to try and understand different perspectives better - playing devil's advocate etc can be really helpful in trying to make sense of things. I get criticised on here...

Joking aside, reflecting on this thread I do wonder if the argument boils down to whether: you see things as 'sisu aren't good for ccfc BUT' (and then choose from - what about the council and acl/a new owner could be worse/they are trying to engage with fans etc etc) or you see things as...

Spot on. Except of course there's also Nick's 'is blue a colour' meltdown and today his diversion is goats. Each unto their own I suppose!

'Broken record' is a pretty good description of this forum - lol! The kcic mailout is once a week and is averaging 1500 opens plus the thread on the latest one on here has had over 8k views so must be helping your advertising revenue at least a little bit!

I find arguing things out on here really helpful because I like to see what posters with different views pick up on and having views challenged makes you think them through more, but tbh not sure how we've got onto arguing about us both respecting Steve! To try to return to the op, it's an...

Afraid you're reinventing history. The Trust in its early relaunch days worked really hard to try to get sisu to engage and sisu just wouldn't. And are you really justifying the legal threat made to the Trust not for anything it said but posting a link to a national newspaper article? The way...

Engagement is a key point. The Trust have been Herculean in their efforts to engage with sisu and back when the Trust was relaunched a small amount of effort by sisu could have got people on board very easily. But sisu didn't want to engage, they just wanted people to agree with them. The Trust...

I wish everyone on here was as clear as this! Selling with caveats/conditions is a definite option. But is there any indication sisu would accept that? Isn't there someone on here who regularly says Tim Fisher has said any ground would be owned by a separate company? Would there still be a trust...

Sorry G, you posted this while I was typing so similar thanks to you as to torch and covmark. Campaigning is all about trying to change things. If there's agreement we want ccfc back at the ricoh but sisu aren't trustworthy and aren't good for ccfc then it could be argued that just calling for...

Torch and Covmark - thanks for replies that deal with the issue rather than Andreas style nonsense. kcic proposed a 'make the call joy' approach for sisu to accept the rental offer that was shown to be better than playing at sixfields but that got shot down by people saying it was a waste of...

Just as there are some posters who seem unable to bear criticism of the council so there are some who seem unable to bear criticism of sisu. The latter never seem to make the case that sisu are good for ccfc and can be trusted, they just deflect/divert things. I'd love to be proved wrong and...

Originally Posted by AndreasB Where is he "putting his neck on the line?" would like him to do that and come out against any of his chums and ex colleagues on the Council for a start. What are you on about? I'd love to know!

sisu have played a blinder on the new ground because without taking a single concrete step this has acted as a huge focus and it's impossible to prove a negative ie it's impossible to prove they won't build a ground. It was a comment on here on the draft that made me rethink it and rather than...