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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Well, no in short - I don't trust them to not loosen things up in a small but significant way. However, it will be part of a dea in which we too will gain. We aren't as stupid as people sometimes imply. EVERYTHING is done for a purpose. We're that purpose be shown up to have no benefit to the...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Struth, how ridiculous. You appear to be advocating mutiny on the job in the fire service...expecting them to go against what they have been trained & ordered to do in an emergency situation. I was comparing the principle...which surely you can see the parallel? Sent from my SM-G935F using...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Lol...yeah - that's me Sent from my SM-G935F using Tapatalk
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    I agree. Government is the equivalent of the FA in being ultimately responsible for setting the rules & goalposts down. And also the referee in the game making sure a goal is scored by fair means according to the rules. The Govt (no idea which specific one) of the time failed but ultimately the...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Oh so what Trump wants he gets eh? There will be something involving NHS in a general sense...but there is no way it will be at the extreme end of what you are fearing imo Sent from my SM-G935F using Tapatalk
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Historically I had a very direct need to have a deep understanding of what happens & how the Pharma industry works globally Sent from my SM-G935F using Tapatalk
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Well look at the Grenfell report. Who are you pointing the finger at for the initially reported failings? The fireman on the front line? The firechiefs that direct them on the ground? Or the Fire Commissioner who either couldn't present the case for enough funding or didn't use the funding...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Key words you use - concern & force are exactly why I call it a scare story. The US can make a suggestion but to actually force us in some way to accept their pricing scheme is just so wide of the mark imo. Plus, if they changed it to the US scheme I think the Prescribers in the UK would be even...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Not in the same manner or by any stretch of the imagination. Sent from my SM-G935F using Tapatalk
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    That is the company's doing not the reps who just go out doing what they are asked to do by the said company. The bribery was at a much higher level in that case. Preferential access here like I say I cannot state it as a fact, but GSK do seem to get to hold discussions with people that others...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Well the named drugs Lyrica & Viagra are available generically...so the big US Pharma can charge what they like & miss out on sales if priced too highly...an earlier post I mentioned Medicines Optimisation Pharmacists who are out there - employed by the NHS to identify patients who take stuff...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Unrestricted access is already there. J&J, Pfizer are US Pharma giants, but Bayer, Novartis, Roche are up there too...they are German & Swiss, but GSK are up there too & they are British - AND I suspect they are the only ones of the bunch that have both unrestricted AND preferential access. I...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    I don't think there are any more dodgy sales reps in the US than in the UK targeting individual Drs/Prescribers. Their system allows promotion direct to the public. The public buy the promotional blurb as they might for a tube of toothpaste...& then demand a Prescriber gives them a prescription...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    The active ingredient is the active ingredient. That is what produces the medicinal effect. Most generics fall short via adverse effects caused by the various 'inactive' ingredients. A bit like some people don't eat garlic because it upsets their stomach only sometimes the effect is enough for...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Ah, ever the child I see?! Well having tracked back the only drugs referred to in that link are generically available. That means anyone & everyone can produce them if the so wish & get regulatory approval to do so. In fact if you research the top 100 most prescribed drugs in the UK they are...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    This link? If a different one then please let me know where it is & I promise I shall read it. Sent from my SM-G935F using Tapatalk
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    What drugs Tony??? Give us some examples Sent from my SM-G935F using Tapatalk
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    What I call out is the cost of changes necessary to bring about the scenario suggested would be so massive & so disruptive - I doubt they will be possible within 20yrs Sent from my SM-G935F using Tapatalk
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Yes. The near the death deal that Boris offers will be accepted by parliament. Sent from my SM-G935F using Tapatalk
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Quite...& the model in the US is patients being advertised to directly so once the Doctor prescribes, the patient can buy their drug anywhere. Here they can buy illegally on the internet or other unauthorised sources...but generally - it is from a reputable source at the NHS price Sent from my...
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