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Part of the issue is the way you and many others talk about the negotiations it’s as if you frame it like negotiating a price at a market. The fact you then have the audacity to tell others they don’t understand how negotiations work while having this infantile take is laughable. Sent from my...

Well I’m not saying that I’m saying the indicative votes were done too late when positions were entrenched and the mandate of the ref and been twisted. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Yes, after the ref then? And to pander to the Brexiters who we’re pushing for a harder Brexit. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

If it has been done straight away with the groundwork laid and expectations managed it would have been fine IMO. Problem with the indicative votes was by the time they came along the Brexiters and managed to completely change the mandate derived from the ref and convinced a third of the country...

Retirement age pushed back to 75. That was put out by a think tank the other week. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

You don’t think it’s correct as in they made a typo? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

The sooner somebody has the balls to fuck off the DUP, to tell leavers Brexit isn’t going to be an unmitigated success and will involve some loss and compromise, fucks the ERG off and accepts that the tories are going to have to take some damage and can’t remain unified the sooner a practical...

Again you’re assuming everyone who criticises leave is a diehard labour/Corbyn fan. Most in this thread are not. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

I’m commenting on events, it isn’t opinion in this case. The government is digging a hole of its own making, if I’m pointing out that one lie contradicts the previous lie that isn’t opinion it’s just observation. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Have you followed the news at all recently or looked at the evidence? None of this is conspiracy stuff, it’s not “bollocks spouted by somebody else”, most of it is based on the government own contradictions and documents. There certainly nothing glib about using my own eyes and ears to asses the...

So you’re now blaming the lack of no deal prep on the people who have pointed out it isn’t practical? This isn’t that hard to grasp - this is due to the government not being sincere in anything it has said, it’s not the fault of people who have highlighted the problems. Sent from my iPhone...

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No they’re being criticised for downplaying the problems associated with no deal, pretending to try and negotiate a deal, refusing to make information public, lying to the select committee, doctoring the documents before release to cover previous lies, shutting down parliament when it needs to...

There hasn’t been anywhere near enough prep to make no deal realistic. That’s not the same as what prep has been done being done by the previous government. No it’s not hypocritical as the E.U. aren’t saying they’re trying to negotiate a deal when they’re not. How is that difficult to...

Not how it works. The immediate gains will be locked in straight away as they seem to be shorting the pound. What they will then do is use the profit to buy distressed businesses and public assets, the government will be telling us how we can’t afford certain things now or that that they can...

Mostly this preparation was done under the previous government. Also the main criticism regarding twiddling of thumbs in reference to negotiating another deal rather than preparing for no deal as the government was telling everyone they were pulling out all the stops while in reality doing...

Possibly done to protect Goves lies last week in front of the select committee? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Yeah there’s a huge disparity between the average voter, the media and how people actually vote. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

No I’m saying what I said. For once will you read a fucking message and reply to it or acknowledge it rather than deflecting to something else. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Because what you got picked up on was assuming every young voter who goes to university votes labour. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk