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What is Sisus end game? What would it take for them to sell?

We would struggle to get a sale if he had no legs.

I don't disagree at all, but neither did I say a short term fix was what was needed. The problem is its not what we think or want, its what our wildly unambitious and shit owners decide. If they think plug the gap short term is best, that's what they will do. For people with supposed business...

I just think a good goal scorer is harder to replace….especially so late in the window. I don’t disagree about our ownership, we need them gone, but at the moment that’s just wishful thinking.

I just feel at present with so little of the window left, if Gyokeres left he would be a tougher ask to replace. In honesty I don’t want either to leave.

Very true. It’s shit really, we need new owners and investment. I’m trying to be pragmatic, otherwise it would just depress me .

We need goals. We already have a leaky defence, and we need to sell to stay afloat then Hyam goes. I’m not happy like you are but if it’s a choice of a scorer, or a defender who at least several posters call out each week as too slow then Hyam it is. It’s shit either way.

Eleventieth!

I like Hyam and would be disappointed to see him go….but and it’s a big but, if it was a choice of him or Gyokeres to go, in order to balance the books, then it’s the right decision. Interesting that it’s all doom and gloom about him going, the same centre half that some posters on here say is...

No they weren’t a success, and I wouldn’t disagree on that. I was more looking at the point you made about the cost of each to the club, Collier who was expensive failed, and McCallum who was free was a success.

I don’t think it’s deluded ,at the current time, to see the club as one that can survive in the Championship. I would say I’m more realistic than positive.

I don’t see it myself. All the comments about them being a club run by wealthy backers….well it’s hardly done them much good since relegation has it, and they are trigger happpy re manager retention.

Fuck me G, that’s scraping the barrel. As you like to deride McCallum, he could be used as an example against what you are saying, we signed him for free he was a success snd we made a tidy profit. For every failure you can draw out a success.

Is it arrogance that other people don’t have your negative outlook?

It was the period of time that Strachan signed anything with two legs, ably assisted by a Chairman racking up 60 million in debts that has led us to this exact point in time. Like you I’d rather forget it!

He sounds like Shugs!

They still need customers to buy them, and there isn’t many. Millions in losses year on year, dwindling fan base….it’s only heading in one direction…but how long they take to get there is the ultimate question.

But if they hadn’t turned the pitch into a cow field then the person managing the contract with the third party would not have had to have got involved.

Again, it’s Wasps who are the landlords and who haven’t provided a playable pitch. It’s their fault. Whatever Boddy has or hasn’t done is speculation…..but we wouldn’t be talking about it if Wasps hadn’t fucked up the pitch.

G, you are missing the point that some of us blame Wasps. Pure and simple it’s their fault, and what Boddy has or hasn’t done is down to their initial fuck up. That’s not defending him.