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I agree with the tradition and sentiment but does that automatically buy you any extra rights?

But if your constantly trying to renegotiate after you've agreed heads of terms as its called what can you expect. Do you keep negotiating a price after you've put a deposit on something? You don't because your happy with the deal that's why you put a deposit down in the first place and signed...

I think they would like to Don but it needs bricks and land and to get that you need money and that's something they aint got.

No its evidence that they asked and got a 250 year lease in their deal. The analogy is buying a car or a house Nick, someone pays screen price in Birmingham for a car and then a punter in Coventry asks for a grand off the screen and gets it.

But that's not evidence that CCFC would never own the stadium. Its evidence that that the party was unwilling to sell.

What evidence points to us never owning the stadium? I have never said wasps are good business men either, their just better than the idiots that own our club. If you have read my posts you will see that the only thing I am against is my club being destroyed by a game of my prick is bigger than...

Do you think the management team were appointed by Sisu or was it the fact that Waggot was the footy man and having been turned down once before went back again to secure his services? Not disagreeing with running the club on a sound financial basis, it needed to happen but the jury is still out...

I think their playing the game Nick. All sorts of under hand stuff goes on in the corridors of any political organisation such as councils as every one has their own agenda. I don't agree with it as much as the next man but its an unspoken reality. The thing for me is the likes of Fisher and his...

I think its hand in hand with a sustainable model that doesn't put any financial pressure on you if you only have an average Rugby attendance of circa 12K. The money that would be taken can contribute to the Rugby club. Egg chasers and Footy fans are different people I don't think their would be...

Disagree Ian, if the club are successful and at the Ricoh Wasps stand to make more. You would want a rental agreement that reflects in success as so many on here have said, if you owned a business that IF ONE OF YOUR TENANTS WAS IN THE PREMIER LEAGUE and contributed a rental of 1/4 of a mill a...

NO NO NO NO NO NO NO. Good at this level but no trust.

The litigation snow ball will continue to grow, if your a barrister you will carry on instructing your client to fight it, you keep getting paid. I think the flip side to all this is if our owners don't win the JR or JR2 if that happens their will be a huge legal cost financially. The problem...

Problem is Don, I don't think our owners have ever had the money available to them to buy a deal as their investors pulled the plug on the funding. That's why all the issues with driving the price down to something Sisu in its own right as a business could raise the capital for, then sell the...

It does say any term over 7 years. The problems as I see it is no one wants to let our owners have any long length of tenure as they cant be trusted, If your Wasps you already know that their was a rent strike and after what was done to the charity you can hardly expect them to get back into bed...

Same as ! The saying of "Grind the bastards down" comes to mind. The council, Higgs and Wasps are playing the long game with Sisu, they know they aren't as affluent as they make out hence the self sufficiency of the club line all the time. It works for them but until the inevitable happens it...

Looks like the end game is coming quicker for us and Sisu than we thought. This looks like check mate to Wasps and their council buddies, the statement although factually correct is a cry for help. Fishers bluff about back up options of land is the only option for Sisu you would think from this...

Sisu will go but on their terms. If the op is in any way correct our owners are spiteful enough to liquidate it's their way of saying if we're not having it your getting less. This has a long way to go yet, they will hold on until all hope of a court victory is over. Their will be nothing left...

Which Councillors' in the future will have favours owed to them and by which of the protagonist's?

Could well be an option, offsetting the losses against your tax bill. This is the kind of thing that Sisu specialise in to make money. Just wish they would sell up and go, don't think they will though as they will just continue to litigate and saddle the club with the cost when it all ends. And...

If Wasps have said they have no problem with the acadamy staying their then sod the council and the higgs. We need to be talking to wasps to make sure any agreement is equal to what we have now and they include specefics in their plan that have to be included to keep the status of the acadamy...