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Lucky for us they don’t hand out any points for pre-season then isn’t it

He’s right in what he says though Every pre-season people say they have ‘major concerns’ about signings and every season MR gets it spot on, as the league tables have consistently proved.

Definitely, a complete change of mindset

I’d argue that the only reason they had 10 men was that they were under so much pressure that they had to use up all their subs. So we basically forced them to play with 10 👍

Thinking of moving onto an analysis of the star signs of the respective teams next Anything to pass the time

Don’t know, we didn’t do badly enough to qualify for it 😆

It’s gonna be same team I’d think, I can’t see Southgate changing too much, not in his nature

Italy v Spain changed everything for me- I was pretty scared of playing Italy as they’re too smart, but Spain ripped through them seemingly at will. Not saying we’ll do that but my fears receded seeing how they struggled at times. Had they a finisher Spain would be in the final.

Point taken, just messing about 👍 Struggling to work out what to do with no matches until Sunday

I’m working from home, same difference really 😆

According to google those managerial heavyweights Frank Lampard and Sol Campbell can be added to Big Sam… got to be something in this, I’m telling ya 😉

I wonder whether we’ll get another domestic boost if we go and win the thing Crowds went up after Italia ‘90 and then we had the whole face paint stuff after Euro ‘96 & football got seriously big, if stadiums can open back up and we win the tournament I reckon we’ll see bumper crowds next...

Here’s the history- we have one competitive win against Italy… ever https://www.11v11.com/teams/england/tab/opposingTeams/opposition/Italy/

How does Big Sam measure up to Juergen Klopp? 😉

I’d agree with anyone else apart from Italy.. apart from Germany maybe I think I saw somewhere on Opta that Italy have a 69% chance of winning- don’t know how they work it out but I think it’s based on all the stats from matches so far

Good cause it wasn’t meant to be about that, just interesting. I don’t know enough about Shankley and this older managers. I don’t like Ferguson and his achievements for me came from trying to buy everyone who ever had a good game v Man Utd, luck (the class of 92), and the one thing I would...

Well if it helps I despise Ferguson and think Keegan is an idiot, it’s not about liking them for their personal lives at all. Just interesting.

It’s an interesting point that had never occurred to me before- the greatest managers do tend to be more left. Don’t see how that’s promoting anyone, if you’re taking it that way then stop being defensive. I’ve never voted for anyone btw, I reserve the right to slate all of them 👍

Bit touchy 😉 Perhaps their ideologies make them better equipped to develop a unit that works with & for each other and cares less about the individual? We’re forgetting the late, great Brian Clough of course.

Pretty sure Keegan was too, remember him waxing lyrical about “the working man”