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People forget how effective Kelly is. Even in the Championship. May not be as good in possession as Sheaf or Hamer but protects the back four much better in my opinion.

Was brilliant for us in League 1. Has never got going in the Championship and never looked reliable at this level.

Hamer was poor today and was absolutely stupid for the 1st goal. He's still the best midfielder we've had play for the club in years though by a distance.

Jesus that was awful. Rose isn't good enough. Dabo isn't good enough. Allen offers nothing in the attacking midfield role. Walker is dross. We all know this. How has Robins picked that side. Norwich didn't get out of 2nd gear.

Defence looks awful. Rose isn't good enough for this level. Can't trust Dabo either.

Name I thought of was Neil Taylor. Think we were linked last January when he extended his deal at Middlesbrough. Now a free agent.

Agree. Think they've had a great window.

Nixon was reporting £60k a week a few days back

Blame lies at Robins door for that performance. Team was so disjointed from the start. Killed the crowd off in the first half. If Dabo can't be trusted to play two games back to back he shouldn't be at the club. Recruitment has been dire this summer. Squad looks unbalanced. Wingbacks offer...

Anything afoot @Skybluebeliever? In or out that you are aware of?

Mike McGrath from the Telegraph reporting we agreed a deal for a German centre back but couldn't agree a work permit...

Saw someone online suggest Ryan Bennett from Swansea. Seems out of favour as they apparently are due to make a payment if he plays one more game.

Caulker has gone to a Turkish club managed by Pirlo

Alan Nixon has a story on us today but can't see what it is.

This is all starting to feel too familiar. Just don't really understand the end game with Sisu again. If Gyökeres goes we are deep in the shit. I agree with lots of posters this summers recruitment has been very suspect. Echoes of the Andy Thorn summer and 2nd Mowbray summer.

Was only thinking this morning Sunderland have done some good business. Would have loved Ballard and Van Heck (who they've been strongly linked with) at the back.

Hyam gone?

You reckon a Hyam sale might be enough to keep the wolf from the door?

Strange one. I'm a big fan of Hyam. Hard to put a value on him though.

Doesn't read well. Just the pitch stuff or have other assurances not been given?