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Not necessarily the fans fault though. Let's face it some of our League One crowds were on a par with the Highfield Road top flight crowds of the 70's.

He might have been "a fucking football manager" but he was no mastermind 😂

It is pre season training. A period of assessment and coaching. He would be foolish not to be all inclusive at this stage. Get Portugal out of the way and a couple of friendlies and he will know how he wants to tweek things. He probably has a good idea already. But don't be surprised if it...

You mean he is actually part of the training kit? 😆

I know Callum Perry, Justin Obikwu and Kai Andrews went.

You need to phone Frank and Dean Austin and illustrate how easy it is.

Hopefully he can learn from Grimes how to be relaxed and make fewer errors. I actually think Grimes will help bring the best out of him. I think we have some decent permutations in midfield.

I can't see WBs on that table.they are not the same as a FB. More likely to cover the ground of a Winger and a FB combined.

Madison had only made 12 first team appearances at League One level at the same age. Not saying he is as good as Madison. But appearance wise not far apart for his age.

Wing backs are the most regularly substituted

That is the sort of decision that will be made after pre-season. It would not surprise me if we don't keep him under our wing and coaching to make sure his fitness levels are right. A loan decision might wait until January.

Yes because he was under 21 when we signed him. Training with the first team and developing him because the coaches think he has development potential. Is different to expecting him to be a first team regular last season. The fact he was held back back injury and the need to up his fitness...

Give it a rest. At the moment we have Dovin Injured. Wilson, Collins and Bell. If that doesn't change before the first game who are you picking?

I take it you didn't let him near your hair 😂

You need people to take the surplus players off your hands though. Otherwise you are stuck with them. Too many fans seem to think if they don't rate a player they can just be tossed aside and replaced at the drop of a hat.

The main thing is with Grimes, Rudoni, Torp, Sheaf, Eccles and Allen it gives us various permutations around formations and tactics. How we set up away from home might differ to home matches, they give us options off the bench. I certainly haven't bought into this theory that Frank Lampard...

If Wilson's goes and your free came in, you would as you put it have "calamity Collins covering". So now you want Wilson and Collins gone. Ok. As I said before easier said than done and at least one would have to move before someone comes in.

True. But I still think one keeper would have to go before for that could happen.

So you want Collins gone ok. When he goes I will talk about the options again. 😆

So you pay 4 keepers 5 including the young lad in the squad. Plus you would be paying either Collins or Wilson to be idle out of the 25 man squad. I can't see your scenario happening unless either Wilson or Collins is moved on. That might be easier said than done.