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Struggling granted but not this bad. To have a team that shows no passion or fighting spirit knowing the predicament we are in is not accepatable. We have had teams in the past that were not the greatest but they showed fight and determination. So as an answer to your question out of the...

Another thorn is this that and the other thread by dongonzalos :facepalm: I am all for opinion's on matters but is this not just another way of getting the forum into another thorn slanging match?

I don't get if the worst happens and Thorn is sacked or quits, it isn't as though he has been one of our best managers ever and he has been dealt a shit hand. He knew what he was letting himself in for from the start and so on taking the job he was on a win win situation. If as look's highly...

I fully agree with you Delboycov. They should all keep it shut and just let the process take place, however long it takes. As you say non of it helps, no matter who is saying things, because all it does is wind the fans up and divides them, as if we need any of that right now.

. What sillett says does not really bother me however, Richard Keys did not take us to an F.A Cup final win so a bit of differance in comparing a fan to a manager who achieved the only cup success in the clubs history

Thing is people have a go about not having players/bought players, and as a few have said AT says the squad is good enough to be out of the relegation shit we are in. But lets look at what over-spending is doing to 2 clubs (admin). We all want better players and more players than what we have...

Think we are going to be in for some serious heartache Gaz myself, I just can not see sisu letting go so easily, as they keep saying they want investment not to sell. I think they are pre-planning for relegation (may have been at the start of the season) Lower division lower wages more cost...

Never said you did Gaz. I was replying to the thread about people wanting thorn out not being very good at thinking and not to anyone in particular (as I can not remeber who said it), but I just can not see what keeping him as manager will achieve, if you can then please do share it because for...

Oh but it can be said that those who want thorn out are brainless, clueless or whatever accusations that people want to call them thats not ridiculous gaz? someone called a fan a knob because his opinion differed.

To the Thorn in brigade I would say you have a lack of ambition for the club, and are content with relegation, as you do not want to try anything that may just turn this shit season around, and so proven wrong in your wanting to keep an inept person at management level in his job

Rev I have said this before. It is not just sisu but the whole club that is rotten with a losing mentality, and to those who advocate in wanting AT to stay I feel they only want him so it keeps the hatred for sisu alive. If we were being successful to a degree there would be not so much sisu...

All managers make poor signings, no matter who they are. CM should be given a chance to try and prove himself, if he's a failure then so be it, thats just one of them things that happen, let's just hope he doesn't get booed when he does play again, and is given a fair chance.

Cov fans though otis a player always get's judged to early. Their either shit or not after a couple of games. Players should be given a chance and not be judged on a hand full of games.

I agree JT and have always stated that he needs time and game time before he can be judged but some are/have been unwilling to give him the time. I was just trying to state that some are to quick to deny AT of any blame for anything (gaz's quote was just used as I couldn't be arsed to carry on...

Laughable how nothings Thorn's fault either, and sisu have done this and sisu have told him to say that.

Got to be Lloyd Mcgrath like torchy, for his commitment and never say die attitude, he did not care about reputations and just did everything he could for the cause, even when hurt he just got on with it.

Cloughie and wingy, if thats the case regarding the consortium then there was no way that any deal would be done this side of the season, what with all the parties that are involved in this, and maybe a deal with sisu has already been done, and their selling of players is part of any deal...

How could getting someone new in be any worse? At least at this stage of the season there would be that honeymoon period that may just give us some momentum to maybe by a miracle survive, a lot of teams around us lost today so no real harm done luckily just 1 game less to get some points but...

Been saying this for ages sub, what is there to lose? Nothing but so much to gain.

More fool him, sorry ccfcway that's his problem if he did. We still only have 4 wins all season and the stats are pilling up against us for worst records, and I am sorry if you do not agree or if no-one agrees, but to me that is nothing to be proud of as a CCFC fan (not saying anyone is proud of...