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To be fair, I don't think anyone in this thread has said sisu have not been a disaster as owners, they're not a cancer on the club and we will progress under them. Equally, I don't think anyone has in this thread said wasps will be good for ccfc.

This thread hasn't gone as I thought it might but it's illuminating in its own way although overall is pretty depressing. Even your insults are feeling jaded!

I think I have my answer thanks ;)

genuine question and genuinely interested in your answer - If it's accepted that sisu have been a disaster and they're not going to change, then doesn't it mean that we can have our hopes and dreams (or delusions!) but the reality will be ongoing decline, crowds falling even further, etc etc?

If it's accepted that sisu have been a disaster and they're not going to change, then doesn't it mean that we can have our hopes and dreams (or delusions!) but the reality will be ongoing decline, crowds falling even further, etc etc?

Come on, Nick, I was relying on you at least to come back with something better than that!

As I've said already, this is prompted by posts on here - it's not about individuals - and another person within this thread has made a relevant point on chants at games too.

The reason for the OP was in part that it's not just the "odd person" as recent threads on here demonstrate.

This is a really interesting point. One of sisu's tactics was to claim ccfc leaving the ricoh was costing coventry millions of pounds but that proved to be total bs with not a single company going out of business, no measurable impact on the local economy and similarly no discernible economic...

My OP was prompted by posters on here making the points to which reference is made in the OP and it is their evidence I'm interested in not responses taken straight from the Nick's handbook!

Any chance of a single relevant fact or bit of relevant evidence?

I'd be more interested in your answers to the OP rather than a response of more questions! Last time I referred to individual posters on here it did not go down well so won't make that mistake again but as already posted above there were posts earlier this week saying wasps will be good for ccfc...

The sixfields campaign succeeded and different pressure could now be applied to sisu but some people get upset at the idea of a sisu out chant.

At the start of this week there were posts saying wasps will be good for ccfc and the city of coventry

Delusion can also apply to people repeatedly making stuff up. I've always been pro team and pro fan and that's it. If you can provide a shred of evidence to back up your claim then do so, otherwise it's another example of wishful thinking/delusion. More interesting would be your response to the...

Reading some posts on here, in our desperation for a better future are we ignoring reality and disappearing off into wishful thinking or even outright delusion? 1. What is the evidence that makes some people think the ccc-higgs-wasps deal is great? Sisu’s plan is there for all to see: they have...

sisu are proven liars and wasps are in full pr mode. If by "real answers" you mean honest ones e.g. wasps saying 'yeah, we're really screwing Cov RFC' or Joy saying 'I don't give a FF about the fans' then I'll be all ears, but lies, spin and pr are more likely

Chief Exec of a southern rugby club turns up in the West Midlands at a meeting for football supporters - only question would seem to be 'are you lost?'

Just don't see why they'd want to. they want to be a top rugby brand. Why handicap that by taking on a third tier football basketcase which requires major investment to make progress and is never likely to be a brand like man u, chelsea etc. We would just be a drain on wasps resources and...

You're not wrong. I hadn't been to Colchester before and it was another one of those moments of realising how far we have fallen. In our eyes we remain important but for wasps it seems they're doing excellent pr but when they are striving to be a top rugby brand the idea that their ambition...